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  • #1745527
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    As I said before I reckon we’ve had the best of it ,early 90s to 911 , now it’s wanting every thing without working or paying for it ….

    #1745530
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    Last week, Clive Lewis suggested that he might resign from his seat in Norwich to allow Andy Burnham to contest a by-election, return to the Commons and take over from Starmer as Prime Minister! I have long suspected Lewis was a bit dim but that is taking it to Olympian levels.

    Voters accept by-elections when the incumbent MP has died and needs to be replaced. However, no one likes contrived contests that are not necessary.

    Andy Burnham has got nothing whatsoever to do with Norwich. The idea the voters will just meekly roll over and vote for him to further his undisguised ambition and vanity is ridiculous.

    If such a contest took place, I believe it is an odds on certainty he would lose. Which is why I hope it does happen, even though it probably won’t.

    Why does Burnham seem to think he is entitled to be Prime Minister? He makes no secret of his ambition. But he wasn’t a very good Cabinet minister. He presided over a scandal in the NHS. In 2015, he ran one of the worst leadership campaigns I can ever remember and lost to Jeremy Corbyn, of all people.

    He likes to make out he has been a huge success in Manchester. Anyone who has visited the city recently might not share his enthusiasm. The stench of drugs was so strong, I almost floated from Oxford Road station to the university.

    I met Burnham once, in a pub in Liverpool. I thought he had a bit of a weird vibe. Something of a narcissist about him.

    #1745540
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    The only one who can realistically step in is Streeting , however playing the Prince is easier than being the King , now’s not the time to be stepping in and I think he knows that

    #1745541
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    Something of a narcissist about him.

    Pre-requisite for being a politician IMO. Good points re Burnham – whenever he is wheeled out to criticise the government (which is seemingly all the time) I always think to myself “Didn’t you have your go a while back and not do any of the things you are demanding now”. His constant whining about railways for example.

    #1745543
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    Streeting is defending a wafer thin majority in Ilford. He will almost certainly have to go on the chicken run if he is to stay in the Commons.

    Aside from the “independent” candidate who almost beat him last time and says she will run against him again, lots of voters will realise they can vote tactically for her to oust him.

    #1745544
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    “Pre-requisite for being a politician IMO.”

    Yes, I am afraid that is true.

    The other points about Burnham and Lewis are: why would Labour MPs choose Burnham? That is by no means guaranteed. And even if they did, I doubt the public would be impressed by such a stitch up.

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    Blimey, we must be even more (expletive deleted) than I thought.

    #1745562
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    Want something interesting to read?
    Try … The Abolition of Britain …by journalist Peter Hitchens or perhaps
    try ….The Abolition of Liberty:The Decline of Order and Justice in England or maybe even
    try … Unconventional Wisdom
    You may not agree with the author but will make you question many things.
    good luck to all

    #1745571
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    Been saving this for budget time when Reeves will undoubtedly get her ‘excuses’ out before …. well I guess you know the rest.
    Published Oct 25 written by Alex Brummer
    At the City of London Regulators’ dinner at the Mansion House on Wednesday evening, a deputy governor of the Bank of England was positively lyrical about how the UK was faring almost six years after cutting ties with Brussels…
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    But there was no sign of the Chancellor Rachel Reeves celebrating these achievements at the International Monetary Fund meeting in Washington last week. Quite the opposite. In both her private and pubic conversations, Reeves was spitting tacks about Brexit. Her frustrations stemmed from revisions that the OBR is making to forecasts about productivity and growth.
    ‘The productivity challenge’ she told fellow finance ministers from across the globe, ‘has been compounded by the way in which the UK left the EU’
    The truth is that the Chancellor is engaged in a desperate search for scapegoats to explain away the Government’s dismal handling of the economy in the 16 months since Labour took office. And the blame game is intensifying as the clock ticks away the minutes until her second tax-and-spend budget on November 26.
    She is determined to spin the message that it is Brexit, not her own incompetence, that has brought the country to it’s knees, with sclerotic growth and the highest inflation in G7 group of advanced western economies. Not to mention a £30-£40 billion black hole in the public accounts that she will have to find a way of plugging.
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    Reeves and Kier Starmer will need to engage in some impressively athletic intellectual somersaults if they are to reconcile their claims that, on the one hand, UK trade deals are reason for the OBR to be kinder in it’s economic forecasting, while claiming on the other hand Brexit was harmful.
    In debating Brexit, many political commentators still rely heavily upon an inaccurately reported OBR assertion from April 2023 that Brexit is responsible for a 4% loss of productivity. This, however, is a distortion of the budget watchdog’s actual prediction. The 4% loss of productivity, if it happens, would take place over 15 years. When it comes to economic forecasting, the accuracy of such long term predictions can be largely dismissed out of hand.
    (it finishes)
    Obscure arguments about Brexit and productivity form part of the defensive wall which Starmer and Reeves are seeking to erect ahead of what can only be regarded as a humiliating second tax hiking budget,
    The notion that we would be so much better off in Europe is a fiction.
    Escaping a stagnating, sclerotic EU was a huge tribute to the common sense of the British people. The Chancellor plainly thinks that in Brexit she has finally discovered a way of diverting attention away from her own shortcomings.
    She could not be more wrong.
    good luck to all

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    ‘Escaping a stagnating, sclerotic EU was a huge…..’ boost to Sinn Fein in N Ireland, and we now have a Sinn Fein First minister and a border in the Irish Sea. Yet more evidence that England doesn’t really consider us a relevant part of the UK.

    #1745579
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    Ah kid the old Labour bad Right good rant …. How original

    #1745581
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    HDLG – Kid is quoting Alex Brummer, who “writes” for the Daily Heil.

    ‘Nuff said, really.

    #1745587
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    I know glad , as I said left bad right good , kid though as he keeps reminding us isn’t right wing ….

    #1745608
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    What did Rachel from accounts say following last years budget?
    Along the lines of ‘… would not be coming back for more..” “public sector must learn to live within it’s means”

    Read a very interesting interview recently with Dan Neidle who exposed Zahawi’s tax affairs and said to be looking into Rayner.But that’s not the point I wish to bring to your attention, the article ended with this … ‘For Neidle, Britain’s ultimate failure is not that it taxes too much -the Nordic countries have higher rates- but it taxes badly.’They manage to raise more money in a stable rational way’ he says of Scandinavia. ‘We do the reverse; our system is irrational and anti growth’
    The article was entitled .. Broken Tax System is killing the economy (do you realise our tax code runs to 23,000 pages?)
    Dan Neidle is the founder of Tax Policy Associates
    good luck to all

    #1745610
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    OBR have projected a larger rise in growth kid ….. That bad is it ?, at PMQs Badenoch trier to knock the budget , Starmer replied she backed and continues to back the Truss budget , that’s why both her and the Tories are dead in the water …

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    Badenoch starts by saying Reeves is the worst ever Chancellor …. Err Kwarteng , if she’s hoping we’ve forgotten then she’s stupider than I first thought

    #1745617
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    When Robert Peston (a known Socialist) says this budget is a sop to Labour’s backbenches you know it’s a missed opportunity.
    These tax rises and borrowing do nowt to curb spending. Commentators across the political spectrum are all singing from the same song sheet on cutting and curbing public spending, with truly meaningful welfare reform.
    Whilst they continue to shirk from that reform, government finances and key institutional investors (yes, they do really matter) will continue to bear down on the government and the country.

    Spending and welfare is rising, uncontrolled.

    Rachel….Rachel!!! You have maxxed out the country’s credit card.

    Fleece the strivers, to pay the skivers.

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