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  • #1756799
    Avatar photoDrone
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    the tory candidate lost the deposit , I mean it must have been decades since that happened

    It was their worst-ever by-election result with 1.9% of the vote but they also lost their deposit at two other recent ones: Rutherglen and West Hamilton in 2023 with 3.9%, and Manchester Central in 2012 with 3.7%

    The latter is notable for recording the lowest-ever turnout in a peacetime by-election of 18.2%

    #1756800
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    Reform complaining about the bi-elections leaflets in other languages is hilarious , then the standard trump it’s bent guv

    The Mail/Farage still throwing their toys out of the pram. He’s having a Trumpian ‘stolen election’ tantrum this morning. Apparently Reform won amongst ‘British born voters’. Quite how he knows that in a secret ballot is beyond me. Whilst some ‘foreign born’ people can indeed vote in Parliament elections, there are strict rules and he has ponied up zero evidence that these were broken and certainly not to the tune of 4,500 votes. These people are dangerous liars.

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    I know most on the left here don’t consider this to be a significant event but Mandelson’s betrayal shows how rotten to the core Blair and his cronies are and by extension Starmer’s government has become by introducing New Labour men into the heart of the present government.
    from Dan Hodges (published Feb 8)
    But what is not open for debate is the extent Russian intelligence had their hooks embedded into one of the PM’s closest political confidants. Or that this fact had been common knowledge for years throughout the British, US, and European security services.
    ‘I didn’t know’ has been the PM’s increasingly forlorn refrain since the Mandelson scandal broke. But how can he possibly not have know?
    I suspect the answer relates to a conversation I had last week with a senior Whitehall security source. Reflecting anger within the Civil Service machine at Starmer’s attempts to blame vetting failures for the ongoing crisis, he pointed to the PM’s decision to despatch Morgan McSweeney – his chief of staff and a close personal friend of Mandelson’s – to question the prospective ambassador about his links to Jeffrey Epstein.
    “If Starmer really wanted the full story, why didn’t he send an independent experienced member of the Propiety and Ethics Team to interview Mandelson? Why specifically choose one of Mandelson’s best mates?” he queried.
    When Keir Starmer claims he didn’t know the full extent Mandelson had compromised – via both his links with Epstein and his connections to Russian security service assets – he’s dissembling. In reality he knew or suspected everything. But Starmer’s priority wasn’t the truth. It was ensuring the truth could be managed and manipulated in a way that enabled Mandelson’s appointment to proceed.
    good luck to all

    #1756826
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    Meanwhile, the hero of the RWNJ, Nigel Farage, has his pockets full of Russian money… oh, and said that he had never met the Russian Ambassador to the UK in 2013, when there was photographic evidence that he had.

    #1756829
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    Oooh – who reported my post?

    Typical of RWNJ – when you can’t win an argument, try to silence all dissent.

    Pathetic.

    #1756835
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Hopefully Farage and his scrots continue to alienate voters , listened to one of the party spitting the usual we had a great result line , Reform , the Arsenal of politics

    Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026

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    Whereas Labour had held the seat and its predecessors for about a century and couldn’t even finish in second place

    Only the 13th time that the incumbent party have fallen to third or lower at a by-election

    In the unlikely event that anyone’s interested in where this stream of stats I’ve been trotting out have been found, they’re from this voluminous article:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_by-election_records

    #1756992
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    Given that polling numbers are the media’s main justification for the constant fluffing of Farage, we’ll presumably be hearing a lot more from the Greens now:

    REF 23% (-1)
    GRN 21% (+4)
    LAB 16% (-2)
    CON 16% (-2)
    LDEM 14% (nc)
    (From YouGov)

    The BBC will be giving them a weekly seat on Question Time right?

    #1756995
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    Let’s hope we do Richard fingers crossed they don’t give their answers in Urdu though :wacko:

    #1757007
    value31
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    Blackcountry Kid, With your talent you should write a book of fairy tales. You should make a lot of money.

    #1757016
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    “Let’s hope we do Richard fingers crossed they don’t give their answers in Urdu though :wacko:

    They’d still make more sense than Farage.

    #1757022
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    I will tell you what Glad that was a lot better than my attempt at humour.well played sir

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    It won’t stop the Labour Party and Conservative Party strutting around and thinking they are important, despite the fact they can only just poll over 30% combined, when in living memory they often polled 85% to 90% on high turnouts.

    When they started their double act, Britain was still a significant (albeit damaged) player on the world stage. Now at the fag end of their time in power, we cannot even defend our own military bases anymore.

    Don’t they ever stop to wonder why they have lost so much support and are so widely despised?

    #1757026
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    Let’s hope that before the next election both Reform and the Greens will have their policies well scrutinised. Seems to me the electorate just jump on bandwagons these days. Not too happy about the new Green candidate carting her rescue greyhounds to London for photoshoots to be honest. A ban on greyhound racing ( which is what they want) will mean an end to the breed as we know it, and there are very few dog breeds these days bred purely for functionality. ( ok I know I’m biased with my love of sighthounds and it’s probably clouding my judgement).

    #1757031
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    Sorry, @moehat , but did you just use the plural policies in relation to Reform? 🤔

    #1757032
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    Lack of concentration again!

    #1757038
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    Let’s hope that before the next election both Reform and the Greens will have their policies well scrutinised.

    I quite agree (along with all parties of course) however I have rather more faith in that happening to one than the other.

    In other news I am shocked to hear that the Telegraph has been caught lying. If things are so bad, why are they having to resort to making things up? Surely there was a real example they could have used.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/mar/03/telegraph-censured-fabricated-story-banker-struggle-pay-school-fees

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