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  • #1642130
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    There,s one or 2 decent horses at those weights , the handicapper gives the graded horses a chance now , he has to to get them to run

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    #1642287
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    Went ahead with Recite a Prayer (win only) and Cape Gentleman ew, both 100-1 as wanted to bet something for PP free bet this coming week. No idea if Cape Gentleman will stay but he has a bit of class and is an intended runner, and Recite a Prayer has no other entries. He went pretty well on his last couple of runs till he hit the wall so I’m hoping he’s had a wind op since his last start.

    #1642289
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Still itching to bet Cape Gentleman, but I have to draw the line until the day, and see what I can make from Delta. Good luck with him Grass

    #1642299
    Red Rum 77
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    It could be that less than 40 runners could line up for the Grand National.

    This article from Racing Post

    The Grand National is in danger of not attracting a full field
    The latest scratching stage for the Grand National took place last Monday, with a worryingly low number of horses left in given there was still the best part of three weeks away to go at the time.

    Sixteen horses were scratched, leaving 57 remaining in contention. At the corresponding stage last year, 78 horses were still vying for their spot at Aintree.

    Since then the field has decreased, with the Willie Mullins-trained Captain Kangaroo and Venetia Williams-trained Quick Wave also taken out. With several runners left in far from certain to line-up – we are looking at you, Envoi Allen – and any number of things that could go wrong as trainers step up their preparations closer to the day, could we be left in a position where the maximum field size of 40 is not even met?

    Connections of those at the lower end of the handicap, such as the 132-rated Captain Cattistock, Secret Reprieve and Fantastikas, may be encouraged to leave their runners in contention until much closer to the time when in many years they would have little hope of lining up in the big race. Let’s hope they do, or else we may be left with a rather fitting end to another season blighted by declining field sizes.

    I thought this when I saw 85 horses from early February.

    ROUGH QUEST’S YEAR (1996) the was only 27 lined up.

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    #1642300
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    Didnt realise Quick Wave had been ‘scratched’, until i read the RP article yday eve.
    The withdrawal leaves me with
    Coko Beach 33s
    Mr Incredible 33s
    Vanillier 25s

    More to add over coming days.

    #1642301
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    More could follow, as some are entered in the Irish Version on Easter Monday. (Watch this space) as they say :whistle:

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    #1642302
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    Yeah, a few more withdrawals likely. If there were, say, 35 runners that would be fine imho; less chance of a fancy one ‘bumping’ into a straggler or getting infringed at a fence.

    #1642303
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    I would say a smaller field for the Grand National might mean less harm to racing’s image – it reduces the chances of equine injury.

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    #1642305
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    There have been plenty of injuries in the Topham over the years and that race always has fewer runners than the National.

    #1642306
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    True enough, but surely the smaller the field the lower the risk, generally speaking?

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    #1642309
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    This from Wikipedia shows the fatality rate of the Grand National

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equine_fatalities_in_the_Grand_National

    Not all fatalities are cause by falls, some are in running and inbetween 2012 to 2019 the was none.

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    #1642314
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    Quick Wave being scratched leaves me with four in Corach Rambler, Le Milos, Vanillier and Royale Pagaille.

    This leaves room for a couple more, however I shall wait until the day. The Big Dog and Our Power are the two I’ve been going to and from with, but I’ll wait for the enhanced place terms. I can’t see either getting much shorter than they are now.

    #1642326
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    Captain cattistock would be a very interesting runner if he got in!

    #1642327
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    Captain Cottistock would be miles out of the weights if he does get a run. Fairly certain the top weight is an intended runner as it would have been the aim all season. Anyone below Gabbys Cross carries 10 stone 2 as its the minimum weight. Regards safety, the field might be smaller but there could be a lot ridden by claimers to negate the weight issue and claimers equal inexperience generally.

    #1642328
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    “ridden by claimers to negate the weight issue”

    As Kryten in Red Dwarf would have said: “A superlative suggestion, sir, with just two minor flaws. One, no claims are allowed in the Grand National and two, no claims are allowed in the Grand National. Now I realise that technically speaking that’s only one flaw, but I thought it was such a big one it was worth mentioning twice:” https://youtu.be/EIoRm4LfNtU

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    #1642331
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    In the olden days I used to avoid those in the long handicap, as they forced to run on 10 stone, even though they should really be on 9 stone something. Might have to go back to that rule.

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    #1642342
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    Maybe this year might be like the good old days when you could just back a horse that was running from within the handicap but with less than 11st. Albeit now having to include 7 year olds.

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