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2019 Ryanair

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  • #1392770
    FrankieMac
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    Only way I see Min not in the Ryanair is if Altior missed the festival

    #1392775
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    Yeah.

    They won’t win either race if Min and UDS compete in the same Festival races as last season but Min could win the Ryanair this year.

    #1392780
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    I think I’ll stick with my Frodon and Storyteller bets bet until the day, as it’s a very easy race to get wrong Antepost.

    Maybe giving him a bit too much credit, but the one I could make a case for at a big price is Willie Boy. Plenty of negatives, not least his jumping, and also the fact that the yard isn’t known for races of this stature, and he looks maybe one for The Plate. Still, he’s looked a reformed character this season, and 100’s is tempting, but I’ll stick for now. Probably makes sense lol

    Frodon 20’s
    The Storyteller 25’s NRNB

    #1392787
    Jasolong
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    If you’re confident Min will still go Ryanair ( and I hope he does) then take 11/1 on exchanges now as he won’t be any higher than 4/1 on the day I suspect

    #1392802
    Avatar photocharlie87
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    Min was a drifter on the exchanges this week so word of caution to anyone following Jaso’s advice. Quick way to the poorhouse backing Mullins drifters on the exchange

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    Avatar photoVautour
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    I’m a big fan of Min; he’s a quality horse but I can’t see him winning a Ryan Air because he is an out and out 2 miler; no question about that. He’s way to free when the pace isn’t strong. I rate Min as the second best 2 mile chaser in training and I’d say he’d be a 3 time festival winner already if it wasn’t for the injury he had in 2017 and fact that he’s unfortunate to be around at the same time as Altior. He won the John Durkan on his first run this year and Ruby had to strangle him all the way around. He had too much class for the rest at the end but it was Balko Des Flos and Shattered Love who he beat that day and he only beat them by a couple of lengths and they have gone on to disappoint since. He is at his best over 2 miles but unfortunately they know he’s a good half a stone to find on Altior. I wouldn’t give up on that. He’s a year younger than Altior so keep trying; don’t run away to the Ryan Air where he’s not guaranteed to get home. I’d say he’ll run against Footpad at the DRF and if he beats Footpad then he should go to the Champion Chase. Footpad would be more suited to teh RyanAir I think.

    #1392810
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    An out and out 2 miler whose form figures at 2 1/2, including two Grade 1s, are 1,2,1.

    The best of those was arguably the Melling Chase, a neck defeat, but his last race was beating both Balko Des Flos and Shattered Love where he raced keenly but still stayed the trip. He’s 8 and I’m thinking he might be ready for an extra half mile, particularly in the Spring.

    #1392811
    Avatar photoKevMc
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    I’d say he’d be a 3 time festival winner already if it wasn’t for the injury he had in 2017

    I know you’re a borderline WPM fanboy but that’s blasphemy if you ask me.

    #1392813
    Cheltenham Novice Chase
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    I think what sometimes people forget about Footpad is he really needs soft ground to be seen at his best. Of his 22 runs he has never won on ‘good’ ground and has only won once on ‘yielding’ ground. Last year’s ground, for most of the season, would have suited him perfectly. Given the summer we had and the lack of subsequent rain perhaps the ground is simply not to liking so much this season. I remember when he was novice hurdling, WPM was clear that Footpad needed a soft surface for him to be seen at his best.

    #1392814
    Avatar photocharlie87
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    It’s a race that splits opinion because of the different profiles that can win it. Min is an out an out 2 miler that would have multiple festival wins to his name over 2 miles were it not for Altior. Were it not for Altior, there is no chance Min would go for a Ryanair over QMCC. I don’t think 2m5f at Cheltenham will play to his strengths because he takes such a keen hold in his races (to put it lightly). He’s been over 2m4f twice, a complete non event at Gowran and came off a slow pace in the John Durkan where he used his turn of foot to win him the race (Shattered Love was gaining with every stride). He smashed Politilogue 16 lengths at Cheltenham which was reversed over 2m3f at Aintree. Not saying he can’t win a Ryanair, I am just saying that to be seen to best effect 2m is his trip.

    #1392821
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    Politologue is a better horse away from Cheltenham and Aintree was 20 yards short of 2m4f

    You cannot say a horse is “ out and out “ at a particular distance when they’ve performed like that in Grade 1s over half a mile further.

    Binocular was a 2 miler, Well Chief was a 2 miler.

    #1392828
    Avatar photocharlie87
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    I take ‘out-and-out’ to mean all the characteristics of a horse best suited to 2 miles. Not going to split hairs over a definition. People can say what they like, it’s an opinion. Not one you share, fair enough.

    #1392852
    Jasolong
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    Charlie87 please read the full thread before commenting on my apparent ‘advice’ haha. I was the one who said Min doesn’t go Ryanair according to the exchanges. But other members said they can’t see why he would change so I said if that’s the case take 11/1 as it won’t be if he turns up.

    #1392859
    Avatar photocharlie87
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    Apologies Jaso I misreadt what you said

    #1392863
    Jasolong
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    No worries I’m certainly put off Min after the exchanges drift. Although it seems to have stabilised again now so who knows where he will end up

    #1392871
    potato
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    One punter not in the know laying £50 can cause a temporary avalanche on the exchange.
    Someone watching the market sees the £50 lay happening, he panics and think somebody ‘knows’ due to the 3xchanges being so weak on many runners at present.
    Someone else is watching and thinks the same and lays again and so on and son on. The many racing forums start getting people post about the drift and how it isnt running so more people start laying.

    Then everyone realises it’s not actually a serious drift and the market gradually returns to what it was and all is calm again.

    Min should run in champion chase. Altior has hit flat spots before and one day he will hit a flat spot but he wont come back from it and he wont be on top by the line. Maybe it’s this year maybe many years from now.

    It’s not out of the question that min could beat altior though Altior is clearly favourite for a good reason.

    #1392874
    Avatar photojackh1092
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    Footpad is no certainty for the DRF. Had another slight setback, not as serious as his injury during his reappearance, but Mullins is “hopeful” rather than certain he’ll make it. Perhaps one or two that have known this have come to the conclusion Min will win at DRF over 2miles and they will perhaps change their mind and go for the QMCC.

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