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    LD73
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    Think Coneygree (and Waiting Patiently) will need significant rain to fall as Kempton is currently good (good to firm in places).

    At a big price (40s) I think Tea For Two is massively overpriced given he was only 3L behind Might Bite last year and he is a course specialist with 3 wins from 5 runs. He was running on nicely over a trip too short for him in the Peterborough Chase (his first run back after wind surgery) and that would have set him up nicely for the race – quicker ground might also be a help as he is not the strongest stayer in real deep winter ground.

    Being a hold up horse as well may be a big advantage as you have Native River, BDN & possibly Coneygree who all like to front run and it wouldn’t surprise me if connections of Might Bite decide to revert back to the forcing tactics he used as a novice – therefore it could be a bit of a burn up on the front end and then fall into the laps of the horses who sat off the early pace.

    #1389558
    Avatar photoCharlesOlney
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    Surely Native River won’t run.

    #1389561
    LD73
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    Tizzard mentioned he thinks the horse will be much better for racing and as a result wanted to get 4 or 5 runs into him before Cheltenham, not sure if that is entirely feasible but if so it would mean a run in the KG then maybe the Cotswold & Denman Chases en route.

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    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Took the cash out option with B365 for my Black Corton bet, as he looks doubtful.

    I could do same with Waiting Patiently, especially with concerns over prep, and also forecast, but I’ll just let that ride.

    Definitely one to hold tight with now, but I can see the appeal of BDM at the prices, but might just be a race to sit back and enjoy now.

    #1389687
    wasps41
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    One of my favourite races of the year

    I’m on Might Bite in a double with the first leg in. Will play another on the day but will wait and see ground, line up

    Absolutely love this race

    #1389753
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    When do the nrnbs start to appear?Current official going is good to soft, good in places with 10-15 mm rain forecast. As soon as I can get nrnb on Coneygree, I’m in – but he won’t be a definite runner until The Bradstocks have walked the course on the morning of the race.

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    Despite a long absence, a step up in trip and class of race, Waiting Patiently is a general 5/1 chance for this race. If he were to win or go close he will likely to be targeted at the Cheltenham Gold Cup where he is currently priced at 33/1. Looking through past winners of the King George for the past 30 years or so, every winner bar Edredon Bleu who was a 2 mile specialist have been targeted at the Gold Cup. So if you fancy WP for this an ante post bet on the Gold Cup is a no brainer.

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    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Just 11 left in

    MIght Bite
    Waiting Patiently
    NAtive River
    Politologue
    Bristol de Mai
    Thistlecrack
    Clan des Obeaux
    Tea For Two
    Coneygree
    Shattered Love
    DOuble Shuffle

    #1389781
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    @seldomseenkid
    I don’t remember NRNB coming out for this before, but happy to hear otherwise on that. The NRNB column on Oddschecker is activated, which is encouraging. Now we just need to see a tick in there.

    With my Black Corton money returned, I really should stick with Waiting Patiently, but I’d love another in there, and I’m very close to going for Coneygree myself. I put him up when he was 40’s, and can’t believe that 33’s is available at this stage. Itching to bet him.

    #1389790
    FrankieMac
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    I am going and my money will be with Politologue. Would love to see 8 remaining at final decs.

    As an aside, how good does the Feltham look at the moment? :yes:

    #1389792
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    Native River (who will strip fitter for the run and will be suited by the likely strong gallop) is far too big at 7s for me and both Coneygree and Tea For Two as outsiders will give me a good run for my money.

    For me the only thing going for WP is that he is a hold up horse who will be well suited to sitting off a strong pace but I have serious doubts over his stamina and a lack of actual race fitness that having a previous run would have solved especially given the depth of this years race.

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    Sponsors 32Red are NRNB, although I’ve just had a £1EW treble featuring Coneygree referred to a trader!

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    Could Native River be inconvenienced by the course.?
    It’s flat enough and sharp enough, just got a feeling he prefers the longer straights

    I did Bellshill and Might Bite a while back
    ones gone and the other has a question mark to answer after the last run
    I suppose it could be seen as a positive for MB that Altior has been taken out

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    Your Reputation Precedes You, Steeplechasing

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    #1389800
    LD73
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    He has won at Aintree which is 2F shorter than a lap of Kempton so I don’t think the course would be a big issue unless they went slowly which they never do in a KG.

    Although you do need to have tactical speed around Kempton, you also require a lot of stamina especially in a KG where there is no let up in the pace the race is run at – look at the history of the race winners and the vast majority of them were thorough stayers.

    I would expect NR like he does at most tracks to be niggled along at times and be the first of the big guns to look like he is in trouble but that is why he is the perfect horse for a never say die type Johnson ride…you know he will keep going when the others start to empty.

    #1389802
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    Native river is a far superior horse than many ahead of him in the betting and has achieved far more. For him to be currently 7-1 and both politilpgue and waiting patiently at 9/2 is just dumbfounding.

    #1389807
    Avatar photoSea Pigeon
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    Native River is the best horse in the race on official ratings
    He has achieved the most, winning a Hennessy, A Welsh National and the Gold Cup and has won more prize money than any of the other runners.
    He is very consistent winning 8 of his 14 chases and never out of the first three.
    He has had a prep race where he ran well.
    He is not ground dependant winning races on all types of ground.
    He is ridden by the champion jockey.
    He has won going right handed, in fact he has a 100% record going right handed winning 2 races at Exeter.
    He will get a strong gallop with Bristol De Mai making the running

    He should be 2/1 not 7/1, gotta be the best EW bet of the season.

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