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- March 31, 2018 at 12:18 #1348629
A Genie In ABottle is a soft or heavy ground horse.
April 3, 2018 at 08:09 #1348919Bellshill ran a blinder yesterday under a pentlay, boosting A GENIE IN ABOTTLE form. I Can’t believe this strong stayer is 80/1 NRNB with bet 365 and as short as 33s with Boyle’s.
I have gone in again at @ 80/1 NRNB. Also Got him in a nice double with general principle which pays over 20K if he wins.
His back form is very strong, beating MALA BEACH off levels who is now 156 and Tiger Roll convincingly albeit getting 6 pounds who is a 12/1 shot
His novice form is also very strong beaten by 1/2 length by annable fly off levels, and 5 length behind disko on good ground.
Another bonus Noel Meade horses are hitting form and running well again.
I think the step up in trip will suit him massively, and if he takes to the fences running off 10-12 80/1 is massive. There is a chance he may not go to aintree, but nothing to lose NRNB.
If he’s fit I hope he goes. Good luck all. LUMP JOB
April 3, 2018 at 08:44 #1348921In a wide open year, at 80/1, I’m willing to throw a few quid at him based on your confidence he will run well ATP.
Fancy Gold Present (If he doesn’t bleed again) and Annibale Fly more than anything else at this stage.
April 3, 2018 at 09:03 #1348923I have also joined you on Genie ATP. Watching some videos he looks a good neat clean jumper, even on his first start, with a bit of scope and size. Stays, and goes on soft…looking at the forecast I can’t see how the ground could dry to anything better than good to soft and there is a chance it could be much worse. Only slight reservation is that his two starts in England have been slightly less inspiring. I have read nothing to suggest that he is a bad traveller and at 80s he is definitely worth the risk.
For much the same reasons I have gone back in on Baie des Iles at 66s. Jumps, stays, goes on soft.
April 3, 2018 at 13:33 #1348953A Genie looks a good spot indeed from a form perspective. My worry would be that he’s never got within 20lbs of his best Racing Post Rating in a double figure field.
April 3, 2018 at 13:59 #1348957And you have to go back to before the war for the last 7yo to win the National.
April 3, 2018 at 17:15 #1348976Backed Anibale Fly after connections stated their intention to run a week or so after Cheltenham.
Clearly handles a big field and has strong form in both handicaps and at the top level. Seems to appreciate ground with plenty of give but at the same time I wouldn’t want it to get too testing carrying 11’7. If it comes up soft to heavy I will add another further down the weights. Vintage Clouds would be interesting but must be doubtful of getting in.
April 3, 2018 at 17:42 #1348978Worried about this ground even two weeks away. Around here (admittedly other end of the Country to Aintree) the ground is completely sodden. More rain on the way too. Is there any chance it will dry out now, or are we looking at a soft/heavy National?
April 3, 2018 at 18:58 #1348984Article about Gold Present from the Randox Health Grand National website “official sponsors of the Grand National ”
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.April 3, 2018 at 19:04 #1348986The weather is expected to be less wet next week they reckon.
April 3, 2018 at 19:37 #1348989Aintree management would opt for a soft ground rather than good ground National to keep speed down. Even if the weather turns fair they will water.
April 3, 2018 at 20:29 #1348993“Mullins said he will not race Bellshill in the Grand National at Aintree a week on Saturday but will instead rely on Total Recall, Pleasant Company and Children’s List. He does not plan to run his other entrants, Rathvinden and Acapella Bourgeois.”
The Guardian
April 3, 2018 at 21:10 #1348997I personally find it hard to make a strong case for the Genie. He was especially well backed for last year’s 4 miler at Cheltenham before finishing a tame 5th (chased leaders on inside, lost place 5th, not fluent next, niggled along 17th, headway approaching 3 out, outpaced on inside before next, no impression, weakened before last ) and was merely 9th in the Hennessy when sent off a 10/1 shot trailing in 39 lengths behind Total Recall. As for the Bellshill form, let’s not forget Val De Ferbet (who was 3rd that day) has been hammered out of sight on his previous 2 starts and Bellshill didn’t run away to be an easy winner of the Irish National – he finished 5th. Not too mention Lord Scoundrel pulled up. I may well have egg on my face in 2 weeks time but the Genie doesn’t scream ‘National winner’ to me.
April 3, 2018 at 21:31 #1349001I took the 80’s nrnb a while back for A Genie In A Bottle, and I am happy with that, but I would agree with the question marks and I don’t consider him a certain starter.
I am actually more excited about my bets on Alpha Des Obeaux and Raz De Maree. In fact I think ADO has a sound chance, and I would love to see him go there. I haven’t heard any word about him though, not a whisper
April 3, 2018 at 21:35 #1349002I’ve decided to commit to Rathvinden as I can see the price cutting at the 5 day mark. 20’s EW and 94’s on the Exchange will do me just fine as a saver.
With the potential of a soft or worse National on our hands I’m just starting to cool on Saint Are who needs real spring ground. Lord Windermere is another i’m beginning to go off slightly. I don’t like light campaigns in a National horse and one run (an uncompleted run at that) is simply not enough and with Leighton Aspel off injured he’s slowly losing the boxes he had ticked before. I’m already on at 112’s and 50’s EW, but am not likely to top up on the day, unlike some of my other bets.
If it comes up soft or worse on the day i’ll be adding Maggio who is crying out for this trip and could have good place potential.
I will take this time to state my case for Houblon Des Obeaux. His form figures don’t look outstanding and some might suggest he is regressing. However what I’ve seen this season is a horse being run over trips at least half a mile shorter than his best. He’s run six times this season which might look a lot on paper, but none of them are what I would call ‘hard’ races. Competitive? Yes, some. But hard? I wouldn’t say so. In fact I’d say he’s had a comparatively softer season than last year where he ran only four times, but each one being long distance mudfests where he carried near enough top weight each time. Something he won’t be doing here.
Four of his six runs this season have been over 3 miles which has seen him outpaced each time before staying on strongest at the finish. His win in November was certainly reassuring, but the most promising of these runs was his third at Hereford in January. Perhaps not the strongest of races, but the way he finished that day was what really stuck with me. He was carrying 12-1 that day and was giving 13lbs to the winner who only had 2 1/4 lengths on him at the line. The handicapper put him up 2lbs for that, which may be a blessing as he may have struggled to get in otherwise. To my blatantly biased eye; it’s runs like these that show he still have a taste for the game.
His two runs over more suitable trips saw him finish 6th and pulled up, however excuses can be made for both occasions. Ground conditions were against him in the Classic Chase where he again finished with a wet sail and his Eider run can have a line put through as simply an off day, something every horse is entitled to.
Lastly his run in last years race was much better than his finishing position suggests. The ground was far, far too lively for him and he wasn’t given the most enterprising ride; held up throughout before storming home after the last. His best runs have come from being prominent and keeping out of trouble. Charlie Deutsch simply didn’t ride him to his best effect. In more suitable, softer (perhaps not heavy) conditions and with a more positive ride; I simply can’t see anything but a big run from a horse who has had Grand National written all over him since his United House Gold Cup win… a race he won off the same mark that he has in this!

I’m convincing myself more than I am anyone else, but there are far worse outsiders in this and his trainer knows how to send out soft ground marathon winners and is very experienced in sending out 100/1 winners of this race!

Love this boy.
April 4, 2018 at 05:59 #1349036Good Point about Genie in abottles form in big fields SC, that is a negative, but 80s NRNB is worth a punt. There is a chance he wont go to Aintree.
REGAL ENCORE @ 33/1 is also one i like, but will wait the ground to dry out before backing him
April 4, 2018 at 10:12 #1349045Although an old favourite of mine, I can’t get away from Road To Riches. Of course his form has completely tailed off the past couple of seasons, but due to this has absolutely plummeted in the weights. Off 142, a step up in trip, the novelty of Aintree, Meade in decent form, all of this could spark a revival and at 66/1 nrnb 5 places is well worth a tenner each way, maybe more if it starts to dry out a bit. Instead of carrying the usual 11’10 in grade 1’s he will be carrying 10’4 over the furthest he’s been, all in all I think it’s worth a speculative punt.
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