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When I mentioned Yorkhill settle beautifully I meant it in relation to what he did with Townend at Aintree and to some extent with Ruby in both the Nepture & JLT i.e. trying to remove his jockey’s arms from his sockets.
Yes he was settled in behind but he wasn’t reefing or pulling Townend’s arms out before moving through to take it up, for Yorkhill that was about as tractable as I have seen him. I also think he will appreciate the quicker ground that we will hopefully have come March.
I would need to see what altior does in the game spirit before saying Yorkhill might beat him. If altior is in the form of last season he won’t get beat. But if he isn’t the same horse he is beatable as we’ve seen with Faugheen
When I mentioned Yorkhill settle beautifully I meant it in relation to what he did with Townend at Aintree and to some extent with Ruby in both the Nepture & JLT i.e. trying to remove his jockey’s arms from his sockets.
Yes he was settled in behind but he wasn’t reefing or pulling Townend’s arms out before moving through to take it up, for Yorkhill that was about as tractable as I have seen him. I also think he will appreciate the quicker ground that we will hopefully have come March.
LD personally I think you’ve looked at this all wrong. It didn’t appear like Yorkhill was pulling Townends arms out of his sockets because Townend either couldn’t, or didn’t try, to restrain him. He pulled himself to the front almost immediately. So if the horse is allowed to go the pace he wants, of course its not going to appear like he’s pulling hard. Using the free ATR replay service, pause the video at around the 1.10 point, watch Townend’s straining arms, as he tries to stop Yorkhill from tearing away completely.
Many things can be said about Yorkhill’s performance, but settling beautifully is simply not one of them.
Most of the time Townend had his hands on the horses withers as the horse wasn’t reefing to go any faster, all I would say to you is compare what happened to Townend at Aintree its night and day and that is the reason for my initial comment.
Steve you speak some cobblers on here chief.
What a cheap load of rubbish. Not even an attempt at counter argument.
Good luck if you are backing hyped up boats.
I laid Yorkhill and he ran like a rusty donkey. Easy money and he couldn’t even get close to a Sizing John suffering heatstroke.
As Paul Newman said to Robert Shaw in The Sting. “Unlucky Lonahan (sic) but that’s what happens when you play with your head up your ass”
Touche (Fair comment given the provocation surely (readers and mods)
Seems like people are trying to Bear Bait me off this forum with dirty and cheap comments.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Treat it as a compliment Steve if you think people are bear baiting you
a bit harsh to call Yorkhill a boat though, he did beat Top Notch last season and as you say was a lay at the odds with the circumstances but he’s capable of better than that.LD73 is right about the comparisons with Aintree but can see what the others are saying regard Yorkhill was positioned in rear and just went to the front near enough in no time. I’d have liked to see the jockey try and restrain him more, it would have resulted in the horse pulling but as it was he ran out of puff anyway, maybe hold him back after a fence and let him go before jumping, easier said than done lol. I don’t think it would have made a lot of difference as he folded far too quick anyway, how much that is to do with the circumstances and fitness levels I’m not sure but if Mullins keeps him at 3 miles it maybe the case and they have one race as the target but I’m clutching at straws and reckon it’s a case he probably won’t settle/stay the trip and he’ll end up in the Ryanair.
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Has Willie Mullins placed Yorkhill that badly in his career that he needs to switch from 3 mile chases to 2 mile hurdles in the space of one race? That doesn’t seem like the stuff of a training genius to me.
I don’t agree with some of what you have said but you are spot on here. Mullins knows he’s not a 2 Miler. The one thing a trainer of a big yard would know for sure is how fast his horses are. If he’s running him over 3 miles he’s clearly not fast enough for 2 mile hurdles.
Whilst this is true, he did run Faugheen over 3miles.
The problem with Yorkhill was horses already considered stars in each of the races. If Faugheen/Nichols Canyon/Annie Power/Arctic Fire etc weren’t champion hurdle contenders already whos to say he wouldn’t have went there initially?
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Steve, you are missing the point. Last year you wouldn’t have considered BDA necessarily CH class on his novice hurdle form and for the fact he had been chasing.
Exact same scenario as Yorkhill, so therefore, yes there is a point to postulate.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Steve you speak some cobblers on here chief.
Good luck if you are backing hyped up boats.
I laid Yorkhill and he ran like a rusty donkey. Easy money and he couldn’t even get close to a Sizing John suffering heatstroke.
Hyped boats that have won twice as the festival and have had Top Notch, Disko, A Toi Phil, Yanworth, Politologue in behind? Come on Steve.
Well done on the lay…but if you honestly think that’s his true running then you must be suffering what SJ was.
Pulled to front, didnt travel beautifully like you said…first run over a new trip on his reappearance.
I don’t get why some people on here can’t have balanced views, and have to be so “extreme” one way or the other
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Extreme, is well put.
It’s not extreme, it’s just my honest opinion of where Yorkhill’s level lies as a 2 mile hurdler.
Had Mullins felt the horse truly was Champion Hurdle material, then why the effort at three mile chasing?
I can’t seem to get my point across that it doesn’t matter what we thought regarding Buveur D’air before the Champion Hurdle, because we now know that he won it in grand style. Buveur D’air went chasing and reverted, but he never tried the distances Yorkhill did over fences. Buveur D’air has winning form at a mile and a half in a French bumper, so has that basic speed level advantage in my opinion. His two mile hurdle form is like night and day compared to Yorkhill, to an extent that, in my opinion, you cannot compare the two.
As I say, people are free to back Yorkhill for whatever they wish. My opinion is that it’s a bad idea. I don’t see why I should be accused of talking bollocks. I am just telling it the way I see it regarding a horse and NOT attacking people or criticising their input as rubbish.
I find the notion of defending a horse to be absurd. I doubt Yorkhill reads this forum.
I haven’t seen it this bad since someone told me off because George Best’s mother might be reading the forum on Caithness.org
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Not the most tractable but am I the only one who saw some promise in Yorkhill’s performance lol? I should say I hadn’t rated him that high on his festival win as Jacob and Cooper were particularly hopeless on the day and did nothing to capitalise on Yorkhill’s quirks.
If I was wylie and Mullins I could only go for the Ryanair. As Gordon Elliot says go for the race you can win.
He might not win the Ryanair but his best chance by a mile.
Won’t beat altior.
Won’t beat Buveur D’air.
Won’t stay in the gold cup.No worries there. Tizzard and Twiston-Davies are sure to have horses running where they have less chance than they would elsewhere.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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