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One of mine main outsiders is above 900 on Betfair and not currently priced up in the High Street bookies
I have backed 3 horses EW with bet 365 who are paying 5 places and one on the exchanges who hasn’t been quoted for by the bookmakers yet.
VICENTE @ 33/1 EW Currently off a mark of 150. Hopfully PN will be able to drop his mark to around 148 before the weights are announced. If that’s the case he will have a lovely racing weight around 10.7 stone. Won the Scottish National off 146. He stays well I think he’s a big player.
HENRY PARRY MORGAN @ 66/1 EW. MASSIVE PRICE. Jumping is a worry but has been travelling reasonably well in his races.He will be targeted for the race. Bowen should protect his mark and go over hurdles next time out to give him a confidence booster. Stays and is not ground dependant. Will also be running around 10.7 stone
Sausalito Sunrise 50/1 ew bet 365
Ran a massive race off 159 in the bet 365 off top weight. Dropped 4 pounds to 155. Should be Phil Hobbs national horse as they sadly lost ONIV. A further few pounds could have him pitching up under 11 stone. Horse has some class and will run a big race. I think dickie Johnson has a could chance to win his first national.MORE OF THAT- 70/1 on betfair exchanges. I loved his run in the Lexus. The cheek pieces worked wonders and it was a massive step in the right direction and will hopfully come on from the run. I think JONJO has got to aim this horse at the national as he would fall short in this years gold cup. A mark of 153 is a piss take and connections have got to exploit it in a handicap. Looking at his hurdles form he smashed Rule the World (last years winner) in the world hurdle. If Many clouds runs he will also be under 11 stone. Waiting for book makers quotes and then I will pounce.
Good luck all.
Good luck with them ATP.
I really like Vicente, and I think he looks perfect for this, while as much as I’m a fan of Sausalito, I’d be concerned that the owners seem to avoid the National Fences at all times. I’ve been on Henri since the day after last years race, but just a bit underwhelmed by him so far, though he is in the right hands.
That brings me on to More of That. I haven’t mentioned him so far, as I’ve been trying to hoover everything I can on him, but I do think he’s the big plot of the season. He’s beaten Rule The World, beaten Annie Power giving her weight, he has a nice topspeed over hurdles, which is beginning to be of more importance in the race these days, his first 2 runs were over an inadequate trip, he ran a nice race in The Lexus, he’s described by Jonjo as “the best he’s ever trained” (I can just see that quote getting ran out after the race), and he’s off of 153, f*****g 153. I’m very keen on his chances.
I won’t count my chickens until I see him in the entries, but I remain hopeful, and I’m on at 530’s to 1000’s. I think if he does go, it’ll be via The Ryanair, but I’ve taken a chance with him in a double for both that race and The Gold Cup.
More of That
Ryanair/Grand National Double – 500’s
Gold Cup/Grand National Double – 500’s
Grand National – 530’s to 1000’sAs I said, not counting my chickens, and I can see me ending up deflated when he doesn’t get an entry, but at those prices, I had to have a go.
I backed More Of That for the Gold Cup and tbh I think he’s finished.
Vicente is the only fancy of mine I’ve not started backing yet. £50 Rogue Angel 33s, £50 Ucello Conti 42s, £15 O Faolain’s Boy (gotta start increasing that). Vicente comes next. Very confident of having the winner.
More of That – 70/1 on betfair exchanges. I loved his run in the Lexus. The cheek pieces worked wonders and it was a massive step in the right direction and will hopfully come on from the run. I think JONJO has got to aim this horse at the national as he would fall short in this years gold cup. A mark of 153 is a piss take and connections have got to exploit it in a handicap. Looking at his hurdles form he smashed Rule the World (last years winner) in the world hurdle. If Many clouds runs he will also be under 11 stone. Waiting for book makers quotes and then I will pounce.
Good luck all.
Bob and myself have been trying to keep a low profile on More of That winning the National,we were both drawn to Jonjos incredible ‘Best horse he’s trained’ statement and Bob snaffled all the 1000’s leaving me the (80’s) crumbs off his table…A few choice words about voting for him to be Poster of the year yet again and he sold me £3’s worth.Being the King of foresight myself though and TAPK’s sitting on 1000’s to a fiver apiece for both Eastlake and Taquin du Seuill for this,I am convinced both could line up as that old 21/2m adage of days of ‘Classified’ and ‘The Tsarevich’ will prove.
The 20f horse for the GN is a bit of a myth imo. Gay Trip was the key horse around whose neck the theory was hung. His National was almost 50 years ago and in those days they often just hunted a circuit and were never really racing until second time around. It’s much more frantic these days and a 40f horse more appropriate for the job
The 20f horse for the GN is a bit of a myth imo. Gay Trip was the key horse around whose neck the theory was hung. His National was almost 50 years ago and in those days they often just hunted a circuit and were never really racing until second time around. It’s much more frantic these days and a 40f horse more appropriate for the job
Gilgamboa 4th last year is a proper 21/2m chaser Joe.
For me at this stage it’s got to be a return to my old mate The Last Samurai . Better ground last year and he’d have strolled home for me IMHO. Was absolutely gutted to get heavy ground as I had made him the best National prospect in many many years. Superb jumper, stamina to kill, well in on the weights and is absolutely as game as you like. 25/1 for next year is good enough for me to go again even though he will be probably a stone heavier come Aintree.
Also fancy the Paul Nicholls trained Vicente . Stamina to burn and jumps well too. 33s is enough to tempt me into a bet hoping Aintree is the target.
Obviously ONENIGHTINVIENNA (RIP) won’t be running from my three but these two still have chances.
Vicente at 33s looks tasty still.
Topping up on him now
Gord, even more striking Gilgamboa has won as often at 2 miles as he has at 20f. But his GN run tells no lies: prominent off a solid pace and one pace rather than weakening says he gets the trip. Whatever connections believe about his best trip, he stays the National distance.
It could well be that the two you mention will run just as well as Gilg did, but that will be for the same reason. Otherwise there is no logic to it. In the days of hunting and popping those big fences first time round, it made sense that a non-stayer could win it, but not at the pace they go these days.
We live in hope Gord, and if he does get an entry, excitement will certainly start to build. Happy with that Lexus run, it showed he still has something to offer……………..ps thanks for the vote lol
I’d probably be with Joe on this one, I certainly don’t buy into the old 2 and a half miler adage, and in my lifetime, only The Tsarevich, Classified, and Simply Gifted spring to mind. I’ve argued my corner on here a few times on this issue, and I do think it’s not got much foundation.
I wouldn’t put Gilgamboa down as a 2 and a half miler either. He was one of my bets last year, after being placed in The Paddy Power at Leapordstown, and his run at Aintree confirmed he wants a trip……………not that that will stop him conveniently running over 2, 2 and a half miles before the weights come out “a la Cause of Causes” lol
Gilgamboa has plenty of stamina on the distaff side. The 2 1/2 mile thing was always a platitude
Got a shortlist of 7 so far…
Silvinaco Conti – Conditions didn’t suit last year, I’m convinced this is the race for him. His King George run was encouraging.
Houblon Des Obeaux – Ran a screamer in the Welsh National and i reckon better ground will suit better. Just needs to drop a pound or two.
O’Faolains Boy – Wish he’d been out already, but fingers crossed he’ll get a couple preps in before April.
Vioux Lion Rouge – A good run in the race last year backed up with a very impressive win in the Becher suggests he’s got another big bid in him.
Double Ross – Loves the fences and he definitely stays beyond 3 miles. I can see him running to a place.
Holywell – Something is definitely amiss with him, but i still think the race will suit. Should drop down the handicap for his recent runs.
More Of That – Never even crossed my mind until you guys brought him up… you won me over!
Cause of Causes has managed to get down to 148 with a possible couple of runs before Cheltenham to come. Been topping up a few pounds from 65 – 55 on BF the last couple of months in anticipation of his expected return to form in the next few weeks.
No news to be found on Carlingford Loch another JP horse i like for this race. No bet yet but a touch of class about him and stays well.
My first proper Ante-Post reverse of the season, with the news that Three Faces West is out for the season…..dammit
Posted this on the Lexus thread about Don Poli:
I think he’d have a great chance at Aintree. He’s run to 168 RPR three times: one of those at Aintree, and to 166 twice, another one at Aintree. Those were his only two appearances there and although it was the Mildmay course, it could well be that a flat track and left handed (he has a fine Leopardstown record too) are his ideal. His Punchestown CV is lousy.
Coral’s 25 for the National seems value.
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