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  • #1261028
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    129 entries to sift through, and worth noting that Bet365, Betfred, and Totesport already offer 5 places.

    I usually like a right early go on this, but just struggling a bit this year. My attention is drawn at this stage to

    Banksea 28’s
    Spark Plug 33’s
    Clayton 40’s
    Dolphin Vista 50’s
    Spring Offensive 33’s
    Chil The Kite 33’s

    who all appeal for various reasons.

    I’m a bit hesitant, having got this badly wrong last year, but have had a go on Spark Plug, who ran well last week at York, and a couple of other runs have shown me enough to suggest that he’s over his fall last season at Ascot. 33’s is too good to refuse.

    I’m also swaying towards the Fahey pair, Dolphin Vista, and Spring Offensive, and I’ll probably have an interest in them as well at some stage. I’d prefer to be with just one other at this stage though, and struggling to split the pair of them.

    Spark Plug 33’s is the early call, and if I had a second Antepost it’ll be Dolphin Vista probably, but I’ll stick with one for now.

    GL

    #1261051
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    Very impressed by Firmament at York last week. I watched the replay a few times and he really hacked up.

    Sold out of Noseda’s yard for 25K to O’Meara’s and he has shot up 19lbs this year in 7 races.

    He could well be an improving type so had an E/W bet @ 16’s with 365 ( currently paying 5 places )

    #1261609
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    Any views on the Godolphin horses SECOND WAVE and Very Talented like the former ran good race at Ascot in Wolferton stakes think drop back in trip suit him with big field to

    #1262189
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    I have had a bit of a speculative bet in this cos we are going.!!
    I should really just let Mrsraymo pick em cos she has history in this race we have been to this race four times before and believe it or not she has backed the winner three times including SPANISH DON at 100/1 !!

    Anyway I digress…

    The three I have backed are AZZRAAF 25/1 BERMONDSEY 25/1 and DOLPHIN VISTA 50/1.
    Azzraaf ran well in the John smiths Cup and not quite getting home having been unlucky in the Royal Hunt Cup!!

    Bermondesy was also unlucky last time and didn’t get the mile and a half the time before and Dolphin Vista could be same as last years winner and might get in with a penalty!!

    #1262194
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    You do indeed digress, Raymo…what does Mrs Raymo think?!

    #1262204
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    I’ve done Firmament and I felt he was unlucky dropped to 7F last Saturday. By the time he got out the winner had flown.

    I expect Firmament to travel well and swoop late and as an improver with a little class I expect him to run a huge race.

    16/1 was surprisingly still available after his unlucky run and I feel he will be a single figure price.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1263966
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    Real shame that progressive horses that used to win this race back in the day no longer have any chance of getting in. Obvious examples being Great Order (62) and You’re Hired (75). Sadly, the far less exciting You’re Fired will comfortably get a run.

    You are left with a handful of potential improvers who have already been found in the market and the vast majority who will be lucky to achieve something near their handicap mark.

    #1264081
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    Firmament is out of it. Just for a change a well supported one doesn’t line up.

    Sacred Act is generally 10/1 favourite now.

    Back to the drawing board for me. Hopefully something will pop up as a good bet.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1264082
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    I’ve found a contender at decent odds.

    My eye was drawn to David O’Meara’s Treasury Notes.

    This gelding is a 4yo son of Lope De Vega and he started the season on a mark of 77. It seemed to take a few runs before he started improving and since then he has steadily climbed the handicap, generally winning narrowly, and he has now risen to a mark of 100, which will cosily see him into the race.

    Treasury Notes will need luck in running because he is a hold up horse and this will be a massive field. Three times this season he has met with trouble in getting a clear run but still managed to win all three times. A couple of times this year it has looked to me that Treasury Notes would be suited by the extra furlong of the Cambridgeshire and the hope would be to see him held up, get a clear run and hit the front fairly late in the day.

    Knight Owl, who ran behind him last time is more prominent in the betting and he will be on better terms this time. The Fanshawe horse is one with a good profile but he’s six and at four Treasury Notes looks like he is improving and may have more to come.

    Treasury Notes is going the right way and has won four of his last six starts. The trainer is no stranger to success and I feel that 28/1 for this horse is a bit of value. I would have chalked him up at 16/1 on my own board were I playing bookie on this.

    Treasury Notes 28/1 to swoop late (Bet365)

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1264110
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    Shame about Firmament, the race looked ideal for him.

    Just taken the 10´s on Sacred Act. Second the time before last to Lightening Spear who next time won a Group 2. Then won, despite trouble in running next time.

    I´ve missed the prices but still feel it could end up even shorter on the day.

    #1264113
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    Spark Plug should ensure a good start for those drawn either side

    #1264140
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    Carry On Deryck for me.
    Impressive in Dubai and ran well in the Hunt Cup when widest on the slower part of the track.
    He didn’t enjoy a clear run nor the slow paced when upped by over two and a half furlongs at York.
    James Doyle had to use him out up from a poor draw at Goodwood, still led until just over a furlong out before early efforts told late on.
    Given a decent draw I can see him using his turn of foot to be very effective over 9 furlongs…25/1 currently.

    #1264145
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    As I said before plenty of deadwood are likely to stand their ground. There have been a few dual winners so not surprised to see the support for Third Time Lucky and at a bigger price Erik The Red might still have something to offer. These days it is probably best to wait for the Saturday offers rather taking early prices.

    #1264180
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    I was going to wait until the final declarations to have a punt on this, but
    I can’t resist chancing a few quid on DOLPHIN VISTA, who is
    still on offer with Paddy Power at 50/1. He ran a good race on the course earlier
    in the year, finishing 2nd over a mile, weakening at the end. I think he has
    strengthened up a bit from then, winning over a mile at Ripon in May, but
    possibly more importantly winning over 10f last time out at Beverly. With the
    pace this will be run at, I think you need to get 10f to last out the 9f in this.
    I know you put him up earlier Bobby, I hope he turns up for our sake, and if he
    does he won’t be anywhere near 50/1.

    I’ve always been a BRONZE ANGEL fan. He’s done me quite well in the past, but the problem I have with him
    is his age. There has only been one 7 year old winner in the past 35 years
    (Rambo’s Hall in 92) and I wonder if a younger improving horse, hopefully Dolphin
    Vista at 3 years could just have the edge. The majority of winners in that same period
    are 3 or 4, with a few 5 and 6 year olds. On the plus side, Rambo’s Hall won it at 4
    before repeating the victory 3 years later at 7. As Bronze Angel won it at 3 and again
    at 5, he maybe can go one better than Rambo at 7. I might relent, if he stands his ground,
    and have a bit on him for old times’ sake.

    Another one who interests me is Roger Varian’s AMERICAN ARTIST, who was
    3rd off 88 at the same meeting last year in the consolation Silver Cambrideshire. He came
    back out this year with a shd 2nd at Doncaster over 10f, so trip no problem. He had a
    couple of so so runs in May, but was given a break and ran a decent enough race on his
    comeback earlier this month. Hopefully that should put him spot on and he runs off 90, just
    2 lbs higher than his good run in the consolation race last year. He is entered in both races
    this year and at 38th in the list for the big one, I’m pretty sure he will get in. I hope this
    has been the plan since last year. He is 33/1 across the board, I’ll keep an eye to see if anyone
    lengthens that, but I’ll take him before the next cut off as I think his price will shrink.

    Best of luck everyone :good:

    #1264203
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    Still not bet him Graham, but on the verge of.

    Can’t really justify two Antepost bets in this just now, so I’ll stick with Sparky.

    Dolphin Vista a strong second choice now though, but I’m just wondering if he’ll go. Can see me being keen on him next season

    #1264207
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    Blimey !! Graham ME AND Bobby all on the same horse!! Surely it can’t win with all that overweight LOL

    #1264209
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    Blimey !! Graham ME AND Bobby all on the same horse!! Surely it can’t win with all that overweight LOL

    I missed you were on him too Raymo, bloody hell that’s a heavyweight trio. I hope Mr Fahey reads this,
    clearly he wouldn’t dare not run him now. It’s an offer he can’t refuse B-)

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