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I have a dilemma as to who I’d cheer home in this seasons Gold cup having backed
Holywell
at 50/1,should have taken the 100/1!
Shutthefrontdoor
at 100/1 but only 80’s on the machine and now my ‘Ryanair’ horse
Taquin de seuil
looks like he’s being trained with it in mind! Jonjo doesn’t need to run all 3 in the race
Am usually loath to back horses who’ve been out with tendon problems, but am tempted by 33 Fingal Bay.
If his fencing’s better than it used to be, he’ll have every chance tomorrow in the Hennessy, and could be much shorter for the Gold Cup come this time tomorrow.
Paddy Power and William Hill offer 100/1 for Fingal Bay to win the Hennessy and Cheltenham Gold Cup. Worth a few quid as if he wins the Newbury race his odds for the Gold Cup will surely be shorter than the 33’s on offer.
Charles Darwin to conquer the World
Paddy Power and William Hill offer 100/1 for Fingal Bay to win the Hennessy and Cheltenham Gold Cup. Worth a few quid as if he wins the Newbury race his odds for the Gold Cup will surely be shorter than the 33’s on offer.
It’s not a rare double by any means, Nathan, so I think it’s worth a tenner.
Many Clouds at 20s looks of some appeal. The obvious jump for a Hennessy winner, he will improve again and looks a real tough, consistent animal.
It’s very rare for 3 good value bets to come out of a Gold Cup trial like the Lexus, but Road to Riches looks much smarter than the bookies offering 12s about the Gold Cup – should be half those odds imo.
Surprised too to see 33s available about Sam Winner for the Gold Cup after today – he ran a fine race and jumped superbly bar once.
And to top off the value, those going 20s about Bobs Worth might live to regret it. He’s always been a difficult horse to train, and until the last week or so was a doubtful runner for the Lexus.
Many seem to have forgotten that BW is a triple Festival winner, with a Hennessy and a Lexus also under his girth. Whatever training problems Henderson’s yard faces now, he invariably gets everything right for Cheltenham, and I’ll be taking some of that 20s in anticipation that he’ll get the horse right on song for the Gold Cup.
Some clues today; S Conti going backwards, Road to Riches and Don Cossack in the picture
I was half right in November
Left field but why not Houblon Des Obeaux.
Goes against all known trends in he’s had to many chase starts one of them already in this but I’d like to see how he got on with all the rest of the runners carrying the same weight as him for a change this jumps season and it might bring them back to him.
In soft ground could be a player. Staying on 2nd in The Hennessy to Many Clouds.
Number of doubts I have about all the rest apart from RtRIt’s very rare for 3 good value bets to come out of a Gold Cup trial like the Lexus, but Road to Riches looks much smarter than the bookies offering 12s about the Gold Cup – should be half those odds imo.
Surprised too to see 33s available about Sam Winner for the Gold Cup after today – he ran a fine race and jumped superbly bar once.
And to top off the value, those going 20s about Bobs Worth might live to regret it. He’s always been a difficult horse to train, and until the last week or so was a doubtful runner for the Lexus.
Many seem to have forgotten that BW is a triple Festival winner, with a Hennessy and a Lexus also under his girth. Whatever training problems Henderson’s yard faces now, he invariably gets everything right for Cheltenham, and I’ll be taking some of that 20s in anticipation that he’ll get the horse right on song for the Gold Cup.
I’m just preparing myself for you showing us your Ar*e Joe!
I’ve gone in again on
Holywell
, at 14/1 NRNB. I didn’t see anything in either the King George or the Lexus that would put me off him.
Haha, was just about to post about having done exactly the same thing THM.
Hollywell’s 10 length Aintree win over Don Cossack, Wonderful Charm and Many Clouds has been paid all sorts of compliments by each of those horses. There must be a massive TRF party if this horse wins!
I would say the Mildmay win is the sole piece of form that holds the key to Holywell’s chance in the Gold Cup. Nothing he did before that is really in the same league and his Cheltenham win previously, from Ma Filleule, doesn’t stack up very well, with just 3 wins from 72 subsequent starts.
A few people say they are unconcerned about Jonjo’s bad current form because it is all about March and The Cheltenham Festival.
Considering that Jonjo has just gone 0 for 36 in December, I thought I would compare his form from this time last season.
December 2013 saw 8 winners, January 2014 saw 7 winners, February 2014 was a 6 winner month and March 2014 was his third best month of the last 12 with 10 winners. Based on strike rate, January last year was actually a better month for Jonjo than March, although cash wise he netted a lot more in the month of the Festival.
Only having 36 runners during December 2014 compared to 105 in December 2013 raises my eyebrows slightly and makes me wonder if there more at work than just saving the horses for Cheltenham.
I don’t mean to put a dampener on the faith and swell of support for Holywell but I feel it’s fair to point out concerns to others who may be considering a bet ante-post. I would want to see some serious indicators that HMS Jonjo has sailed into calmer waters and is back on course to berth at Cheltenham harbour with the full crew on board.
Rumours of an Italian Captain having been seen in the wheelhouse need to be dismissed
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Many seem to have forgotten that BW is a triple Festival winner, with a Hennessy and a Lexus also under his girth. Whatever training problems Henderson’s yard faces now, he invariably gets everything right for Cheltenham, and I’ll be taking some of that 20s in anticipation that he’ll get the horse right on song for the Gold Cup.
As the saying goes.."Will the real Slim Shady please stand up,please stand up,please stand up"..I’ll give you that one Joe,
Bobs Worth
going out to 20/1 for the Gold cup just because he dissapoints on his comeback run is the over-reaction of the season so far.Your Ar*e is still mine though as I will be celebrating hard with the rest of the
Holywells
at 50/1 but on my own if
Shutthefrontdoor
100/1, pulls yet another Gold Cup coup off for the legend himself.
Many seem to have forgotten that BW is a triple Festival winner, with a Hennessy and a Lexus also under his girth. Whatever training problems Henderson’s yard faces now, he invariably gets everything right for Cheltenham, and I’ll be taking some of that 20s in anticipation that he’ll get the horse right on song for the Gold Cup.
As the saying goes.."Will the real Slim Shady please stand up,please stand up,please stand up"..I’ll give you that one Joe,
Bobs Worth
going out to 20/1 for the Gold cup just because he dissapoints on his comeback run is the over-reaction of the season so far.Your Ar*e is still mine though as I will be celebrating hard with the rest of the
Holywells
at 50/1 but on my own if
Shutthefrontdoor
100/1, pulls yet another Gold Cup coup off for the legend himself.
Here boys, how come Bobs Worth wasn’t spot on for The Gold Cup
last
season?
He’s obviously a bit behind where he was this time last year and he ran on odd race in the Gold Cup with a few outsiders besting him. Silviniaco looks a better horse to me this year than last and I think it would be unwise to write off Road To Riches, whose form has taken off since the trainer changed the horse’s diet.
With the forum favourite Holywell now in the mix, Lord Windermere fancied by some to come good to defend his title and Many Clouds having done little wrong, it looks tougher for Bobs Worth this year than it was last year, and, as I have said, he couldn’t win it last time.
Good luck with Shutthefrontdoor Gord, but I will Shutthef**kup if he can lift the Gold Cup in this company
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Steve,
Road to Riches
is this years
Last instalment
and I said he had No chance of winning a Gold cup.Sorry Pal….I’ll ‘Shutthef*ckup’ if he proves me wrong mind.
Steve,
Road to Riches
is this years
Last instalment
and I said he had No chance of winning a Gold cup.Sorry Pal….I’ll ‘Shutthef*ckup’ if he proves me wrong mind.
Last Instalment was a big lay for me as well last year but Road To Riches is a different animal to that one. He’s a couple of years younger for a start.
I was against Last Instalment because I believed his handicap rating of 170 was false because it was based on beating Tidal Bay, who was well into his dotage when running 8 and a half lengths behind Last Instalment. As far as I am concerned, raising Last Instalment 16lbs for beating a horse aged 13 has to go down as the biggest load of bollocks since Henry Kissinger.
Road To Riches slammed Boston Bob and First Lieutenant in the J N Wines but many people put it down to those horses needing the race. He’s beaten them again now, on ground said to be less than ideal for him, and it’s looking much more like
they
are the horses that need excuses made for them, along with Bobs Worth and Lord Windermere, rather than him.
The more you feel that Road To Riches isn’t up to Gold Cup class, the poorer the form of those who were behind him in The Lexus becomes. Perhaps Road To Riches will prove different
glass
to Lord Windolene in March
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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