Derby 2014

Far too many Joseph bashers on here. To me he is riding to instruction most of the time. There could be an issue with his weight but don’t think cool more would keep him on if they thought he wasn’t up to it. Just remember he is still a very young man and many jockeys weren’t able to cope with the demands of being ballydoyle no1. Just ask Jamie spencer.

Just look at Joseph and imagine how Jamie would have looked with the rules Aidan had for him.Now that I think of it poor Joseph deserves our sympathy not our roasting.

Except for Camelot Ballydoyle has always been represented by multiple runners in the Derby.Now I just don’t think Australia is as good as Camelot.Were he, there would be no Ballydoyle horse in the race lest they interfere with Joe and the "wonder" horse. I will back whatever Moore rides.

Ryan Moore is on Geoffrey Chaucer but I don’t fancy him to do the double after Ruler Of The World last year.

Corals are 6/4 Australia. Are the "Hotpot wins" boys laying into that gift from the bookies?

I wonder what price Australia will go off if Marvellous fails to shine in the Oaks?

Just a couple of little negatives ahead of tomorrow.

The most striking aspect of the Derrinstown was Ebanoran’s change of pace. Unfortunately, he couldn’t keep straight and eventually fell over the line. Everyone is talking about the stamina on the dam’s side but there is no getting away from the sire being Oasis Dream. Despite quite a high head carriage he had no trouble disposing of Table Rock at two. No surprise if 10 furlongs on good ground is as far as he wants to go. Any softening of the ground would be another negative.

The Grey Gatsby’s French Derby win has led to some interest in both True Story and Arod. I am struggling to view it as anything other than a pretty mediocre renewal. An easy maiden winner chased the winner, the third was never put in the race with any chance and Mr Pommeroy, an ex-All Weather horse, would surely have been in the four but for drifting all over the track.

Hi,

I’m looking to have a good bet on Australia tommorow, but am not sure whether to take the 6/4 with Corals or not, or whether i should risk it and do it later on today.

Do you think there is any chance i could get better before the off, through any high street bookmaker?

Thanks,
del_boy

I would wait to see how Marvellous runs today in the Oaks. If she wins there are likely to be some liabilities from punters who have doubled the O’Brien trained duo. If she were to win I’d get on Australia asap because there is also likely to be a confidence boost behind Australia, as well as financial liability.

Marvellous has gone out to 5/1 today, which is a bit unsettling for her supporters I would think. If she doesn’t win and were to under perform it could give bookies confidence they can get the fav beaten in the Derby.

Apparently Hills are going 5’2 Australia @ 8:30 tomorrow not sure for what stakes

I think Kingston Hill might be worth a look if on the soft side
If the rain stays away then True Story might be worth a look

John

If ever a horse was bred to win the Derby then its

Australia

,Darren spotted this fellow way back and snaffled the 25/1 another brilliant bit of foresight,I cant see him out of the first 3 no matter what the ground.Would I take 6/4 now though?Well I remember way back to 1985 on the morning of the Oaks,I was sitting on 10/1 vouchers about

Oh so sharp

winning and she traded at 6/4 on the eve of the event too,I thought she was a stone wall certainty,She was.However I’m not interested in 6/4 about ‘Australia’,I’m looking at another

At first sight

scenario,this fellow ran em ragged 4 yrs ago at 100/1 and only the mighty ‘Workforce’ could catch him.I reckon if the rain does come

Kingfisher

at 80/1 could emulate that performance,I have taken 100/1 and above about his chances and 20’s to place.When ‘Australia’ runs past him at the furlong pole I’ll still be shouting for a place from a horse who has St Leger written all over him.Good Luck Darren fingers crossed for you.