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  • #1691621
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Henry Adams no longer in the Guineas
    I can sleep easy now

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #1691627
    FinalFurlong91
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    Rain showers forecast every day until the race

    God knows what the ground will be like

    #1691662
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Am a little concerned about the ground being toooo soft to blunt his turn of foot. But this horse is just toooo big at the moment. He’s yet to run anywhere else but on Kempton’s all weather. I just couldn’t resist though. Took everything I could get from 24 down to 21. Charlie Appleby is in good form too.

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    #1691668
    Avatar photoTriptych
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    I’m on the other Charlie Appleby runner Ginger.
    Ancient Wisdom So impressive when winning over Course and Distance at Newmarket last October on soft going and then went on to win The Futurity at Doncaster on heavy.
    He’s only been beaten once in his career so far and that was by
    Rosallion on good ground at Ascot with Alyanaabi just behind him.

    He has a really exaggerated high knee action and will be interesting to see which one Buick chooses to ride. Either way I’m sticking with him.

    ANCIENT WISDOM – 16/1 EW

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    #1691669
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    I agree FF, any soft in the title will be against Rosallion. Not particularly the surface, just it’ll place more of an emphasis on stamina. Task Force is another that should stay the mile in normal conditions but a slight doubt if it’s on the soft side of good.

    Yes, there is rain forecast every day, but many are only for an hour or two and not heavy rain either. So at this stage I’d be hopeful of good-soft.

    If bottomless then Ancient Wisdom may even come into the equation.

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    #1691670
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    LOL, Wrote my post without seeing yours Jac.

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    #1691671
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    The trouble I have with Ancient Wisdom is although he managed wins on soft earlier as a two year old…
    In Group 1 company in the Futurity at 1m, even on heavy he was outpaced two out before staying on to win.

    A mile on heavy ground in late October of a 2 year old’s career is a test of stamina – even if it wasn’t fully truly run. So another 7 months on and Ancient Wisdom is likely to need even further unless it’s almost unraceable at Newmarket which would place the emphasis more on stamina..

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    #1691672
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    I don’t think it’s ever close to unraceable at Newmarket Ginge. Even the last two meetings in November with heavy flooding in surrounding villages we still got some pretty top class racing.

    I take your point about the stamina angle but I”ll take my chances with him and hope that he’s strengthened up over the winter. :rose:

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    I’m also on Ancient Wisdom at the 16s ew. Even if he doesn’t win he has a decent chance of a place, and for the Guineas, all other things being equal I’d rather err on the side of a horse that definitely gets the trip and more but might not be quick enough, rather than one that will end up a 7-8f horse, would be very doubtful if it could get 10f and wouldn’t dream of 12f.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    The other reason I have yet to back rosallion is the track heavily favours prominent runners

    Unless it’s quick ground and there’s a strong enough headwind he may just be in the wrong place on the track

    Nothing won held up at the craven meeting

    My shortlist for horses to take the fav on with is

    Rosallion
    Task force
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    Ghostwriter

    Need to know the ground and wind direction before committing though

    #1691691
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    Best of luck with Ancient Wisdom Green :good: He’s a real ‘chin banger’, the softer the better for him. :good:

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    #1691692
    Mike007
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    City Of Troy wins. It’s a done deal. ;o)

    #1691700
    Avatar photoKwadan
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    Alyanaabi’s run behind City of Troy wasn’t bad, he looks well balanced enough and handled the dip well enough, I’m happy to back him again.

    #1691720
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    “The other reason I have yet to back rosallion is the track heavily favours prominent runners

    Unless it’s quick ground and there’s a strong enough headwind he may just be in the wrong place on the track

    Nothing won held up at the craven meeting

    My shortlist for horses to take the fav on with is

    Rosallion
    Task force
    Notable speech
    Ghostwriter

    Need to know the ground and wind direction before committing though”.
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    I agree, FF. Newmarket and other courses with wide open spaces (eg York) can have a massive advantage / disadvantage for those racing prominently or held up. Depends entirely on wind strength and direction. So prominent runners can have a big disadvantage with a strong headwind; as well as the opposite.

    The Rowley Mile can also sometimes favour either rail or the centre. Sometimes due to where the best pace is in a big field, but also sometimes the ground seems faster in one place than another. That said, ground advantage / disadvantage is imo unusual for this (early season) meeting.

    You’ve come up with the exact same four I am interested as alternatives to the fav at this early stage. I’d add Night Raider though. :good:

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    #1691797
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    Went on the machine yesterday and had £8 matched at an average price of 40 for Ghostwriter by this morning. With working out Sandown I didn’t have time to put the bet up on my thread.
    Just looked on the 2000 Guineas market and seen he’s down to 18, with 26 waiting on the pink side of the board.

    Sorry, awful aftertiming. :rose:

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    #1691798
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    “at this early stage.”

    Early? We’ve been talking about this guineas for about 9 months

    Have you and Shirley held hands yet or is it still a bit early for that… :heart:

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    #1691801
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    Any time when you don’t know what the ground and wind direction / speed will be at Newmarket is an “early stage” Nathan.

    Me and Shirley have been happily living in sin for over two years now, thanks. :heart:
    We love each other lots and lots and lots.

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