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Here you go http://www.culture.gov.uk/consultations/8343.aspx

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Champion Hurdle

1. Oscar Whisky
2. Hurricane Fly
3. Menorah
4. Thousand Stars

Champion Chase
1. Sizing Europe
2. Somersby
3. Master Minded
4. Woolcombe Folly

World Hurdle
1. Fiveforthree
2. Big Bucks
3. Mourad
4. Grand Cru

Gold Cup

1. Kempes
2. Long Run
3. Kauto Star
4. Weird Al

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I’d rather Paul Townend was riding him though

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Aah, the one-eyed Belper who always won at Brighton – that takes me back!

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Actually Wit I don’t think the change of Articles was anything to do with strikes. Rather, I think it relates to the period when it was thought that there were rights in data which owners and the BHB could commercialise.

I’m sure a strike is not going to be successful or achieve anything

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It is actually trivial in the sense that £5 million equates to 0.33% of the company

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I don’t agree.

Provided his managers have discretion what they invest in and he wasn’t involved in the decision, I don’t see there’s a problem.

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A couple of corrections:

Glenn: The 7 years is correct but runs from the date of sale of the Tote

Wit: Although you may have been making a comment on the company’s way of doing business, it’s OPAP not ONAN!

And not sure if this is the dark horse referred to by Glenn, but flushed with IPO cash, you would have thought Betfair a likely candidate

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Sorry Glenn, I don’t think that’s what he’s saying. Betfair has always said there aren’t people acting as "bookmakers" on the exchange because they are not in business. He’s saying that if people are placing more than 1000 bets/hour or making more than 20 data requests per second and hiring boxes at racecourses etc that’s a pretty clear indication that they are not casual punters but are doing it as a business. And if they don’t make any profit, there’s no gross win for them to pay levy on.

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No – they pay 10% of their commission. Traditional bookmakers pay 10% of their gross win. Betfair customers who fall within the definition of "bookmaker" under the levy legislation should be paying 10% of their gross win but are not

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It’s the old issue about whether there are people on exchanges who are trading "in the course of a business" and are therefore "bookmakers" under the levy legislation and therefore owe levy. Given that Betfair make extra charges on those of its customers who place more than 1000 bets per hour or make more than 20 data requests per second or who are consistently profitable, the argument is that these customers are acting "in the course of a business" and therefore owe levy. And given that Betfair get extra fees from these customers, they could probably afford to pay levy on their behalf

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Hurricane Fly and Paul Townend are brilliant and Willie Mullins is simply in a class of his own

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I actually think Calgary Bay might have a chance and is a fair enough price at 20/1

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It doesn’t get any easier!

130 Alaivan
205 Any Given Day NAP
240 Najaf
320 Cooldine
400 Gentle George
440 Ashkazar
515 Safari Journey

All to win as that’s the only chance I have of winning the competition!

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130 Hey Big Spender e/w
205 Alfie Sherrin
240 Poquelin
320 Sentry Duty e/w
400 I’m So Lucky e/w NAP
440 Boychuk e/w

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Fabalu e/w NAP
Quel Esprit
Weapons Amnesty e/w
Kalahari King
Hampshire Express e/w
Diktalina e/w
Shot from the Hip e/w

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130 Blackstairmountain e/w
205 Sizing Europe
240 Bensalem
320 Celestial Halo e/w
400 Garde Champetre Nap
440 No One Tells Me e/w

Thanks for organising this

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