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One of the few sports the BBC actually has the rights to as well Cork.
Johnson-Thompson deserves more recognition and I’m pleased she was at least nominated. It was a thrilling victory after pulling out PBs on the second day to narrowly win it. I’d argue the best achievement this year amongst the nominees. Probably forty years too late for SPOTY though, there were a lot of athletics winners in the 70s and 80s. Even the Worlds get little attention in the post-Bolt era with only the Olympics really getting much traction with the general public.
Don’t fancy Dettori’s chances. Don’t forget McCoy was also helped out by the fairytale National win in 2010. Dettori winning a couple more classics that barely register with the outside world any more doesn’t come close.
Tremendous stuff.
Extraordinary frame between Williams and Ding just then, over an hour long and finished 101-94 to Williams. Must be close to some kind of record for aggregate points and the highest losing frame score.
We do have a phone signal in places down here, honest! But all joking aside I hope you enjoyed your trip Drone. It’s a great place to come if you want to disconnect from everything.
We’re blessed with moor and sea, both of which take on a different character in autumn and winter. Not necessarily better or worse than in summer, just different. I love wrapping up warm and walking along a blustery seafront or deserted countryside where even in summer you’ll hardly see another living soul.
What? If anything it’s getting to the point where all the Dettori bashing is a bit tedious. I have been part of that, although you will also find I’ve said positive things about him too so I guess I’m somewhere in the middle.
If you want all punters to be treated equally then surely a tote monopoly is the only way to ensure that.
As long as bookies follow the rules, there’s nothing anyone can do about them voluntary returning money they don’t have to. It’s a highly competitive marketplace with little to choose between any of them so they’ll all try these small and relatively cheap publicity stunts to try to lure you to them hoping it’ll happen again like Paddy Power with their early payouts which as Nathan says has been going on for years.
Also agree with Ginger about rule 4, surely there’d have to have been one in this case if officially a NR. Is that fair?
Wilson will be kicking himself, he had so many chances.
Three deciding frames and a 6-4. We’re in for a treat of a tournament if it carries on like this.
Wow, Wilson and Saengkham both 5-1 up and lost. You’d have had quite some odds on the Clarke and Ford double a couple of hours ago.
November 24, 2023 at 12:17 in reply to: Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot) #1671566Nothing then. Thought not.
Answer 1: Are you a Labour member?*
Answer 2: Whatabout Corbyn
Answer 3: It’s the Lib Dems’ fault*Nonetheless, for the record I have never even so much as voted for them and would not join them or any other party. You say they’ve started doing it in the last couple of months. I’ve been asking that question since at least the time when it was ’12 years’ (maybe someone at Labour HQ was reading my posts
). Anyway, it’s a perfectly valid question hence why they, and I, are asking it. Feel free to answer. Or not.November 24, 2023 at 07:06 in reply to: Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot) #1671553It speaks volumes that nobody is actually telling us what the Tories have achieved in more than 13 years in power and how they are planning to build upon it. Answers on a postcard please.
November 23, 2023 at 20:52 in reply to: Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot) #1671522Moe, this just proves what all know about what many of them think of ordinary people and the places in which they live. If he’s prepared to say that knowing there are microphones around, what are he and others saying in private?
It’s an odd defence that he was only calling the MP in question ‘sh*t’ as if that’s somehow better. I’m fairly sure that if you publicly accused your colleagues of being bad at their jobs in most workplaces you’d find yourself in a large amount of hot water.
November 23, 2023 at 17:55 in reply to: Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot) #1671513‘We had a fair vote’
Did we? Remind me which side broke electoral law.
‘but would it even be an issue if the vote went the other way’
If anyone seriously believes that the Leave lot would have just shut up and said ‘fair enough, you win’ they are deluded. They got their way and many of them are whining about it saying we got ‘the wrong sort of Brexit’ so I think we can safely say they would have something to say if we we still in the EU. And that’s fine by the way, democracy is a process and not an event. We don’t just make decisions and leave it at that.
‘Labour often say a much softer Brexit would’ve been far better for the UK economy’
They are quite obviously right (obviously not as good as staying but certainly better than what we have), ask anyone who imports and exports things. Sunak himself admitted that when he told the people of Northern Ireland how great it was for them to have full access to both the UK and EU markets.
November 23, 2023 at 12:48 in reply to: Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot) #1671494Murdoch Sun: Tax burden highest since WWII (albeit in tiny writing underneath a gushing headline).
Murdoch Times: Hunt eases tax burden.
Even the Mail begrudgingly admits the burden is still ‘vast’.
And people still wonder why some of us despise these chancers. One is lying, one just about manages to get it right and one is misleading at best.
The Telegraph wheels out Kwasi ‘Mini Budget’ Kwarteng as part of its ‘best comment and analysis’

Little mention of course that the tax brackets remain unchanged so not quite the win for us workers they are trying to pretend it is.
November 22, 2023 at 23:28 in reply to: Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot) #1671467‘What about Monster Raving Loonie Party’
Votes at 18, abolition of dog licences, 24 hour pub opening, pet passports. All policies advocated by the Loonies before they become law.
November 22, 2023 at 23:13 in reply to: Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot) #1671463Google ‘Green Party Manifesto’ and find out, the most recent (i.e. 2019) one is 92 pages long.
‘I fear that one way or another we are going to end up with whipless racing’
Whatever the other arguments may be, it is one way to ensure a level playing field… Can’t strike the horse too many times if you have nothing with which to do it.
‘The honest truth is a big majority of the general public (outside of race fans and race haters) are pretty much apathetic to the sport in general but if they happen to come accross a purposefully baiting one side headline/interview/documentary that is only produced to show the sport in a bad light then of course they will react in a negative way to the sport.’
If these people are so easily swayed, why doesn’t someone produce stuff that shows racing positively for them to see?
The obvious flipside is that if you allow the winner to keep the race, punters of the second are hard done by because they’ve lost to someone who’s broken the rules. As long as the rules are applied consistently you’re going to be on both sides of the fence at some time or another.
Back to the race in question, the question is would the horse have won if the rules were adhered to? If no then the horse wasn’t capable of winning within the rules, if yes then the jockey should have put the implement that shall not be named down sooner.
It may sound flippant saying ‘learn to count’ and I understand that in the heat of a finish the adrenaline takes over but part of elite sport is being able to think clearly under pressure.
Whether the rules are right is another matter altogether but we’ve done that one to death elsewhere.
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