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The Force is the Jockey club trial – the other is for stayers – I.e. ‘Wajir’ of last year…
Football calls
Seems strange that extra half-furlong will benefit stayers, when we are still talking about distances under 11f for 3yos.
gunners are on right now???
Zenjah,
Where did you find the entries? I looked on France Galop, but they didn’t seem to be up yet.I didn’t think much of Brampour myself, but I had seen this on the end of an article about Rouget & Behkabad on Racing Post a few weeks ago:
The Aga Khan also has Brampour and Laristan in training with Rouget, and both are expected to make their presence felt in Group company.
The former was a little disappointing last time at Deauville while Laristan is now on a four-timer following a win at Marseille and two victories on the all-weather at the Normandy seaside track.
"Laristan has been marked down for the Prix La Force and we will see what he is made of in that race," said Rimaud, who added: "Brampour is scheduled to run in the Prix Noailles next time out."
Probably the best son of High Chaparral racing in Europe and John would like to get his hands on him since HC is returning to Australia where he is very successful.
Not doubting that Magnier wants to get his hands on noll wallop, but HC is just
shuttling
to Australia, he will still be available in Europe for the northern breeding season.
Aidan has not had a sprinter since Mozart so maybe Steinbeck will fill that vacancy.
I think AOB sees Alfred Nobel as his sprinter – he is entered in the 7f Listed Loughbrown stakes at the Curragh this Sunday. Steinbeck he sees as a mile horse.
I have no doubts that AOB/Ballydoyle/Coolmore are cunning & devious when they want to be, but I think the Steinbeck story about not being fit for Newmarket is probably the truth, rather than a fear of running him there.
Zenjah, thanks for the Tony Morris story – i think it is spot on. And AOB knows it – Beethoven is not really top-class (of course, he will never say that in public), but a good next-level horse who took advantage of a good opportunity (just like Intense Focus), helped by the fact that a non-Ballydoyle retained jockey was riding him, and so did not subtly hold back for Steinbeck (impossible to prove, I know, but anyone being honest will admit that Ballydoyle jockeys have done this before).
The Prix Noailles is on saturday ‘Laristan’ another Rouget/Aga runner will give further pointers to their wellbeing
Zenjah, I think Laristan (undefeated) in running in the Prix La Force and Brampour (defeated a few weeks ago) is running the Noailles. I’m not sure what the point of having both races on the same day is, since they are 10f and 10.5f…
Those with big reps for the Aga ‘Dibir’ & ‘Behkabad’ been big disappointments…
I was quite the Behkabad-afficionado, and Saturday’s loss definitely burns a bit. I know that afterwards connections excused him for needing the run, and the heavy ground, but still…
I think there are several Group trials for the Jockey-Club, Poulains and Pouliches at Longchamp next Sunday (Noailles, Force, Fontainebleau, Grotte), but not sure about who are entered.
wallace-no7 wrote:
Rip Van Winkle should be unbeatable in this race. I assume the fact he worked at The Curragh indicates to me that he is going to the work earlyFor some reason I don’t think he’ll go for this…..I fancy O’Brien to start him off elsewhere just not sure where!
HTH, even though the Lockinge has been a bit (okay, a lot) sub-par recently, you will notice that AOB tries to have runners in G1s whenever he can. With 3 older horses in training (Age of Aq over 12+f, FAG for 10-12 and RVW for 8-10), he can target more 4+yo G1s than he has in some previous years. With RVW, there are only 2 options before the Royal Ascot, the Lockinge and the Ispahan. Ballydoyle tend to favour English races more than French ones, so unless RVW has a recurrence of his foot problems, I am sure he will run in the Lockinge.
If Fame And Glory turns out to be a 10f horse, I really will take up knitting.
While FAG may not be a top-class 10f horse, I think AOB will start him over 10f (or at least 10.5) for the season (1) because the early season in Europe has the Ganay & Tatts Gold Cup, while you have to wait until June for a 12f Group 1, (2) a win over 10f will make him more attractive as a sire prospect, and (3) he will hope that FAG has enough class to win over 10.5f, even though it is less than his true distance.
I think a horse like Vision d’Etat is good enough to beat FAG over 10f, but at least in Ireland, no decent horse may show up to challenge FAG, and he will be able to pick up the Tatt Gold Cup against second-rate horses like Twice Over. Get your needles ready, reet hard.
John Oxx confirmed that Arazan is flying the flag for him this year but has picked up a foot injury ruling him out the Gladness in April.
Thanks for the info, Mr. Wilson. Where do you get your information, by the way? I always keep an eye peeled for Oxx broadcasts, but I missed that one.
There’s not much between him and ‘Vision’ on Ascot form
Vision d’Etat seems a more likely winner than Twice Over. Not only did he beat him at Ascot, he also beat Presvis in HK, and Twice Over has already been beaten by Gio Ponti once. I think the danger to VdE is indeed the Japanese filly, Red Desire. More like Red Hot Desire…
Most of the first ten in the betting are either bred for a mile and a half or bred as sprinters.
I disagree. Steinbeck, Kingsfort, Elusive Pimpernel all look to be bred for the mile, Fencing Master/Cape Blanco/Workforce maybe a bit further, but could reasonably be expected to start the season as milers, and Arcano/Awzaan definitely have sprint influences in their immediate pedigrees, but also signs of stamina (Daylami! Alhaarth!) that could certainly give them a chance of getting the mile. Plus, in Arcano’s case, we are starting to see how Green Desert’s sons are passing on quality at a range of distances, not just sprinters.
No chance!
I can recall watching the race on ATR and I don’t know if it was because Peslier was on board or whether it was his come from the back win – but somehow it reminded me of ‘Cockeny Rebel’!
Zenjah, given that Cockney Rebel won at Newmarket and the Curragh, wouldn’t that be a good indication? I doubt Hearts of Fire will actually make much impression, but it would be a real boost for those fading bloodlines of his sire and damsire that he carries.
Kargali is also entered in the Gladness (7f Flat) on April 11. Similar race, you know….
I went through the entries the other day applying the major trends.
What excluded Arcano? Something related to not getting the distance because of Oasis Dream? I reckon he is really a contender.
New Approach was probably one of the best Galileo’s there’ll ever be, so if he couldn’t win it, I doubt any of his could.
I think a Galileo could certainly win the guineas, even though New Approach couldn’t. New Approach just ran into a horse that was better over the mile than he was. But at least 2 3yos have won decent G1s over a mile (RVW, Lush Lashes) and Teofilo was a deserved winter favourite for the Guineas before his injury. It just depends what genes are passed down, and if there is quality in the genes (which there frequently is with Galileo), then the offspring could win over a range of distances at G1-level.
I was just thinking that if connections believe that Siyouni will stay the Jockey Club’s extended 10f, then they might be inclined to send their 3yo with better stamina claims to Epsom.
Another possible supplementary entry might be Behkabad, G3 winner over 1600m/12f in France last season for Rouget. By Cape Cross, which may have given reason to think he wouldn’t make the distance, until Ouija Board and particularly STS. Half-brother to Beheshtam, who is an actual "Leger type" (and now apparently a Melbourne Cup type), so there is presumably sufficient stamina from the dam.