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ok and that means because he won over 7furlongs then hes has good as in the winner’s circle at epsom
so bulwark are you saying that every group1 2yr by m and g are going to be potential classic winners
since when was celitc swing by mr p he was by damister
(Edited by newyork at 10:06 pm on Oct. 24, 2006)
lol bulwark i love it , all the horse i mentioned had imo more potential than teofilo, im confused why did you talk of teofilo’s breeding like he is out some champion racemare yes he is by a very good sire but so where the mentioned
bulwarkyou have a lot to learn kiddo . teofilo is a good horse  we can all agree on that but i have seen many horse’s like teofilo over the last 10/15 yrs that as 3yrs nothing came of them a list of a few
tenby 1992 unbeaten 2yr<br>armiger 1992 unbeaten 2yr<br>xaar champion 2 yr 1996<br>celtic swing  unbeaten champion 2yr 1994 all very good 2yrs as good as teofilo but no champions as 3yrs,  the rpt winner no better than dilshann who won that race race in 00 for m stoute, know if you believe that the derby  is going to be won by either 1 of these then you either  have a crystal ball or your very niave. your desperation for hre not to train on is laughable as is your statement about not liking horse who get their stamina from there dams because horse’s dont get stamina from their sires they get it from their dams side, or can you explain how dr devious who was by a sprinter won the derby back in 1992. one more thing the only horse that i have seen over the last 10/15 yrs that did not need to train on 1 ounch was zafonic back in 1992 becuase he had so much speed that he did not need to teofilo is no zafonic<br>
(Edited by newyork at 8:47 pm on Oct. 24, 2006)
a lot can happened over the winter so many serious 2yrs whom looked the part for the derby the failed badly, i dont really see teofilo as a derby horse neither the rpt winner i just dont think next yr derby winner will have been a group 1 winner at 2 just a very strong feeling i get
i dont believe theres such a think as a weak guineas at all , this time last year who bulwark did you have as your derby horse’s,
only 2 winter favourites as won the derby in the last ten yrs that should that tells a story in itself its totally a different race then the guineas or the oaks, the winner yesterday is a nice looking horse but so was brain boru, american post who won this race before being touted as derby winners the truth is when it comes to the derby winner as gus stated its usually a horse who has not reallly been heard of as a 2yr and makes 10/20lbs improvement over the winter and though the spring. I dont usually agree with nick mordin but as he states stay away from any horse that runs in a race less than 10 furlongs before the derby sir percy was the 1st horse since 1992 who ran in a race less than 10 furlongs and went on to win the derby
Mergewash
its been confirmed George W Aussie Rules HR all to retire at the end of the season im gutted that GW is being sent to stud so soon but he has been a great race horse to watchaccording to the weekender racing paper the time was so good it had to be verified
(Edited by newyork at 5:55 pm on Oct. 19, 2006)
o brien has 4 runners but none of them should beat eagle mountain high chapparal was the 2nd string when he won in 01
i would judge him on his run behind teofilo at the curragh in august which was on good/firm ground his form on that run and the champagne stakes stands up well
he got outpaced at york and would of won in 50 more yards and only to failed to beat teofilo at the curragh before that (according to the racing post)
(Edited by newyork at 9:32 pm on Oct. 17, 2006)
