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  • in reply to: ITV Racing #1553004
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    I think the best recruitment to horse racing is attracting families. I am sure most racegoers enjoyed their day out at meetings at a younger age, taken by their parents, and they like their kids to experience the day out too.

    The proof of the pudding is the viewing figures since ITV took over several years ago. They’ve added to their payroll with more presenters than they ever need, but how has this translated with these numbers?

    I agree He Didn’t Like Ground, Francome had the chemistry for the programme. Not word perfect, unscripted not standing there seeking perfection in front of the camera like ITV do now, with Francome it was raw but it was easier viewing than it is now. I can’t even watch the programme now.

    in reply to: Horseracing Panorama: opinions ! #1551410
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    Haha Purwell. The organisation who recruit through the Guardian no less are extremely political, and I would say bordering on hard left at times.
    They have contributed to the division and disruption in this country and should be held accountable.
    Since they lost the referendum they have focussed on minority groups, anything which is not centre right really.
    Rent a crowd, the statue toppling its all hard left and they promote and encourage those entities.
    It’s the left who are kicking up all the racism. I have worked and holdayed with black friends and didn’t think one bit about their colour. Now the left are driving an agenda saying black people are different and trying to stir up a lot of hatred.
    The football aspect, we had kick out racism before each game which had been working. But now the BBC, and others support the political knee stance and again have stirred up trouble with people booing. Being told people are different.
    It’s quite funny to see their former villain now hero Cummings on their side.
    In all, the BBC cannot be trusted, don’t recognise them anymore.
    They are not on the side of the majority in this country that’s for sure.
    Everything that goes out from them. Are they trying to destroy the fabric of which this country was built. I feel they hate us in a way, and they have never recovered from losing the referendum.

    in reply to: Horseracing Panorama: opinions ! #1551400
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    And that’s where reporting by the BBC falls short. Yes, I think all agree any uglier sides of racing that can be improved, we are all for that.
    But, where a programme is one sided, where are the other sides on how well racehorses are looked after.
    It’s typical BBC biased reporting again. They have learned nothing. They choose sides, often the minority groups and transmit their message, but they never look at the other side of the coin, any positives. The BBC can be charged with trying to cause chaos sometimes with the things they promote and support.

    And remember it’s all done for TV, so it’s going to try and grip you and catch the headlines.
    I’d like them to present a programme on racing positives, but they aren’t going to do that are that being left wing trouble making anarchists.
    Do they ever present a programme where the centre right are being mistreated in some way, no!

    in reply to: Horseracing Panorama: opinions ! #1551287
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    If the BBC are going to get their ‘teeth’ into something, I’d be very concerned for our sport in this case, end of.

    in reply to: Horseracing Panorama: opinions ! #1551281
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    If the BBC are going to show something, we have learned it’s usually biased to try to prove a point. They choose sides.
    I expect in this case they consider people involved in racing are more centre right than left, you can be assured they will give this their ‘greatest attention’ to see a victory of sorts for the left.
    That just about goes for everything now, they are political arm, not an entertainment company for the majority.

    in reply to: Reducing the Derby distance #1550262
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    He we are again following another thread about extending Cheltenham.
    Seems to me the change for changes sake people are in operation again, trying to justify their positions.
    Horse racing will end up going to the dogs the same way quite literally with these poor custodians in charge of the sport.

    Still remember the initiative to get more students attending racecourses to boost numbers. Trouble is students haven’t got any money.
    It’s thoughts like that that worry me.

    in reply to: Cheltenham Five Days? #1547372
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    Good post Marlingford.

    in reply to: Cheltenham Five Days? #1547361
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    Very true AndyRAC.

    Horse racing is our second largest spectator sport because of the other 360 odd days of the year.

    The sport does seems fairly solid still, but you wonder with a lot of poor decision making by those at the top, the supposed custodians of horse racing, at some point are these ‘tinkerers’ going to do something so damaging to horse racing it never recovers.

    in reply to: Cheltenham Five Days? #1547263
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    Interesting last comment there greenasgrass, are things being pushed to the limit already?

    In football they have got their way and have more matches, but at a cost of fatigue and needing even more resources to keep things ticking over.

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    Exactly NH.
    I remember Racing for Change were trying to attract new people and one initiative was to attract students.
    Trouble is/was students have no money! What a stupid idea, so out of touch.

    in reply to: Cheltenham Five Days? #1547247
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    But why the sudden changes now, after all these years?
    It seems EVERYTHING is up for review, why?
    Things were working before, why change them?

    in reply to: Cheltenham Five Days? #1547167
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    I wonder when the move to Sunday’s being the day for the biggest racing will come about.
    Not too long perhaps with the tinkermen about, trying to justify their existence.

    in reply to: Cheltenham Five Days? #1547150
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    Watering the meeting down, these decision makers will be responsible for killing the sport.
    Useless custodians!

    in reply to: Cheltenham Five Days? #1547095
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    My fear is those in charge, the custodians of this sport are ruining it.
    Perhaps it’s a need to change things, make their mark and to justify their existence. Have any of their decisions really bear extra fruit?

    It’s the same in football and probably other sports as well. There are changes and decision making going on at the top which are making the game harder to watch, much less enjoyable.

    In the end, people will find other things to go to or watch, that is the danger.

    The trouble is in many cases the people at the top make these changes thinking they know best, but in truth they are out of touch and risk killing their sports.

    in reply to: ITV Racing #1544683
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    Doesn’t sound like Balding has ‘entertained’ you either blackcountry kid! Can’t think how someone so clinical can be entertaining?

    Generally I love accents patriot1, but in this country watching one of our programmes and it’s awash with other accents loses the identity. I don’t even think Cumani is a good fit, I just hear her but not what’s she’s saying.

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    Gingertipster, people have their favourites, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

    BBC have in recent years chosen diversity over ability, and hence you end up with less quality. Their programmes have become unwatchable and more people are finding alternative sources of viewing.

    Not sure of your comment regarding 30/40 years ago. I thought the programmes then had the right balance and chemistry, and didn’t need 12 presenters on it trying to make the programme work which suggests things are badly wrong.

    in reply to: ITV Racing #1544649
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    Agree mickeyip, there’s just too much analysing now. They do it to death.

    Gingertipster, yes Balding was on a lot of programmes, just like the BBC do from time to time flood one person on everything thinking she is a winning combo. Alex Scott is the latest ‘star’ that ticks all the diversity boxes in this case, but doesn’t offer anymore.
    Just my opinion but people became fed up to the back teeth with her, she became too dominant too important for the programme and it put people off.

    And I think ITV racing have not reached the heights they could because they have followed the Clare Balding template of interview perfections and made it more about them.
    That’s why I suggested ITV racing going back thirty forty years to see how it was done, see the presenters just blended in and create the right chemistry for the programme.

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