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Imho, you should include that 7/1 winner that lineform spotted, in your tally of the points of profit accrued from your system, Seagull.
After all its how much the golden eagle sh*ts on our heads/laps (depending on how vigilant we are…. Seagull!?!), when we use your system, that we want to measure, isn’t it? Not your vigilance! So I think that would make it: +39.41, up to yesterday, Wednesday.
What a good thing our Seagull is on such good terms with racing’s golden eagles, isn’t it? He’s even given us one! When I get a kitty together and the bills are looking less mountainous, I shall be paying for carrion for our eagle, as well as following it on paper.
What very sad news. He was always so good-natured. I’m prone to feel more sorry for the family in such circumstances.
Who knows if he and the Man Upstairs will be pulling each other’s leg now, and he’ll keep trying to persuade Himself to follow the racing more closely with him?
Here’s another informative site on the American travesty of an election, for you and your American friends, Grasshopper:
Thomas Jefferson knew the score, Kotkiject: ""The selfish spirit of commerce knows no country, and feels no passion or principle but that of gain."
Yet the psychopathic kleptocracy here and in the US are the first and foremost to wrap themselves in the flag.
I always had a yen to buy a Dell computer. No more. They were big Bush contributors. But the Yanks are still feisty about getting a half decent society, and organise such boycotts on the Internet.
If only the poorer, more naturally spiritual folk organised themselves as instinctively as the Tories and Blair’s lot, how different our wretched society would be. No Tory needs to be told to vote! Nor will they listen if you tell them, they’re all the same… even though they are now! Unless Kennedy gets a grip.
Artemis,<br>I like to note track record holders, but not just for the track concerned; others too.
Also, it can give a hint in terms of breeding – noting horses from broodmares such as Orient, Dish Dash, Sumoto, Sticky Case and others, while they are relatively anonymous. Maybe one of two of those few I mention were just brilliantly fast, but I mean in principle.<br>And it gives you such confidence when a horse could be a bit special and has the breeding.
Don’t larf, but I latched on to Oneway a while back, because of the racing pedigree of the trainer and owner (who are either the same or family).
Fred and Mercy must have established some great contacts, and friends for that matter, in the breeding world. So why wouldn’t an old friend look out for a top notcher or three for Mark?
Perhaps a similar story with Morrison, who I believe  beongs to the family who owned Juliette Marny and  assorted distinguished progeny. I half expect him to come up with a star or two.
I’ve had a very bad run of several weeks, so when things changed for me on Saturday, in terms of winners at a good and therefore "best bets" meeting for me, I weighted the horses I most strongly fancied and understaked those I had little doubts about.
And the strangest thing happened; yet one that has recurred again and again: all but one of my naps went down: Oneway won, but Cloudy Grey fell and Gallery God  was third.
On the other hand, Self Defense, El Vaquero and Innox won (as well as one or two interest bets in smaller races and or meetings). So finally, the penny’s dropped, I hope. And I’m going to do the opposite. Bet on those I fancy but I’m nervous about. (To me Oneway was an exception, a horse who doesn’t seem to have been extended and returning ever better speed figures). Maybe I’ll soon be able to pay off my credit cards and buy a mansion with a snooker table yet! But much as I like long-shots, I don’t think I’ll bank on it…
As regards trends, I don’t believe I pay any anywhere near enough attention to trends, as I suspect the bookies are significantly influenced by them in their pricing – as well as info and everything else. (Somebody mentioned the quality of the horse, which I think ties in with the profile/speed figure).
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(Edited by Grimes at 9:31 pm on Feb. 7, 2005)
I muck about too much, but sensing the likely intention of the trainer of a horse I’m interested being important to me (among a host of interesting considerations, such as the opposition, for example, to name but one!) good class races at good class meetings seem to eliminate or considerably reduce that hideous factor: is it intended to win?
When choosing horses, I find it useful to study the horse’s profile. Coming back after a year or two, so down in the weights but showing fair recent form?
A poor favourite, and falsely priced at that, can sometimes be identified by an easy win in a slow time, and there is often a sounder bet to be had in the race.
I’ve found that the quality of my reasoning (not to speak of self-discipline and everything else) on a given day is very important. It is prone to vary. Nor do I think that always seeing a glass half full is helpful for a serious punter, but it’s a besetting sin of mine, bettingwise.
You pick up a million little wrinkes though over the years, though, and that help to offset my lack of professionalism. When I’m winning, that is…!!!!! In other words, alas, there’s no substitute for professionalism.
According to today’s Daily Mail, "Blair could be facing widespread civil unrest!!!!"…. Che Guevara,  thou shouldst be living now…. Widespread death and mayhem in Fallujah, eclipsed.
Millions of ordinary Brits felt the agony of the miners and their communities; the downsized workers in manufacturing industry, generally – not to speak of the banks, insurance companies, etc. Then, there ‘s all the young country couples who’ve had to move out of their villages because the houses they might have bought or rented have been bought as second homes – as  a direct result of the politics of the "Countryside Axis" fraternity.
But could the symathy people in town AND country  feel for them, begin to compare with the anguish they feel for the foreclosure of the hunts…!
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1200 jobs lost at Jaguar Coventry, insomniac. It must be Red Robbo, back from the dead. Up to his old tricks again… destroying the Britsh car industry and selling off Rolls Royce, our flagship, to the Germans. You’d better check extra careful tonight for they pesky Reds under your bed.
Here’s a little something to aggravate your insomnia, seing that that the political degeneracy that Keillor writes about, has been mirrored in this country – ever since Reagan’s girlfriend became PM:
What is it about the term, "parliamentary democracy" that the yahoos don’t understand!
I would like to see all street protests that inconvenience the public, banned, whether Orange Lodge, Fenian, Hunt mob, whatever. Let them all parade around to their heat’s content in some local park.
The hunt brigade have as much chance of persuading the public to countenance fox and stag hunting as they have, bear or badger-bating, otter hunting, bull-fighting, cock-fighting, seal clubbing – which latter, at least, has the *primary* purpose of providing a livelihood.
As for the abolition of hunting being a case of class warfare. The class war ended long ago. The rich won. If this looks like pay-back, so be it. Alas, the public have always been and indeed remain all too long-suffering to harbour such sentiments.
(Edited by Grimes at 10:40 pm on Sep. 15, 2004)<br>
(Edited by Grimes at 10:42 pm on Sep. 15, 2004)
Thanks for the advice, Grasshopper. I’m not in any position to bet much on anything, so no worries there. I think you could be right about the petro-chemical dollars, though, and will be very surprised if your friends are not in a pretty minuscule minority come November’s election.
It may not be as exhilarating, but the conservative final round played by Todd Hamilton, I suspect, takes as much courage as Ernie’s more intrepid one. Arguably more, when the chips were really down.
50/1 about Local Poet looks good value, in the William Hill H’cap. No don’t laugh…
Well, perhaps you should, having looked at Wanchai Lad’s form!
(Edited by Grimes at 5:24 pm on June 11, 2004)<br>
(Edited by Grimes at 8:44 pm on June 11, 2004)
Yep, Jill, because although I think it’s insane not to consider value, because nobody can achieve a profitable strike rate without factoring value into your financial approach, it is also a matter of common observation that known hacks at 100/1+, when running in good class races, ought to be 500,000/1+. because they won’t win, and their like almost certainly never have. Also, without inside information, long-priced winners in smaller races are hazardous to bet on, whatever their theoretical superiority. So odds about a horse at a small meeting which may look great value are likely to have a lot more of the lottery about them than is apparent. Sometimes, Sporting Odds, who usually offer the best bookies’ odds seem to be in the know about such animals and offer an outrageous price. Ignore it. <br> <br>I don’t mean, either, that coups/scams have never been staged. There are the fabled shaggy-coated Kiwi horses that went to Oz looking like donkeys and won a good class race. But I was talking about horses that have proved over a long period they don’t know how to win even modest races, and for some reason figure in the AP prices for a good-quality race.
If you are a layer, there must be a fair few  horses which were absolute crackers in the past, but now, though still quite young, no longer know how to win; or more probably don’t want to know how to, or are carrying some physical weakness not known to the connections. I was wondering if Vintage Premium might have numbered among the latter. And just lost patience with looking after himself. Probably not, but I have heard of such occurrences.
Anyway where did the idea arise that a concern for "value" odds, as well as a good strike-rate, are somehow mutually exclusive; either one or the other? It’s barmy. ÂÂÂ
(Edited by Grimes at 12:14 am on June 11, 2004)
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Yes, CPGagie, I get your point, and agree with you completely, but I was comparing realistic shorter shots (as opposed to realistic long shots) with 100/1+, shots, for example, as such shorter shots occur more frequently (than the realistic long shots). And the matter of a good strike rate was the issue I was conceding… if you get my drift. All very convoluted (even by my standards). Sorry.
