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You have just admitted to major shortcomings in Hitler’s intelligence, yet you still haven’t commented on his “scorched earth” lunacy or his equally barmy opening of a front against Russia at that time.
These could not be construed as only minor indicators of a very limited intelligence by any stretch of the imagiination. That took real idiocy of the first water, as did his presumption in over-ruling his generals in strategic matters
Grimes, these are refernces to the performance of his as military commander. In this sphere he was less than accomplished at best, downright suicidal at worst.
Fists,
Stating that he is too short in the betting is not the same as “Tell you what id Tatenen wins the Arkle I will give uop racing……..absolutely no way is he an Arkle horse”Good riposte.
Sure Bliar had the low cunning of all dictators.
If you are suggesting there that Blair was like Hitler I would have to very much disagree!!!As for his apparent miitary proweds
Hilter great strength was his absolute brilliance for European politics. What he wasn’t good at was military affairs (and I mean in the actual fighting sense), and that he was completely ignoant of world affair. These last two points were ultimately is downfall (the latter moreso in my opionion).their troops had never had to retreat
Indeed, they had fundamentally run out of money. This gave rise to the German myth that they were cheated by their politicians, a key ground on which Hitler fed.Our monied people in the West had been besotted by him and his Nazi party
I’m not sure where this comes from. Remember though, his fantastic ability for lies, intreage, cross and double crossthe French women were besotted by the strong, handsome, clean-cut German soldiers
Pretty much the same as British girls then when the ameican arrived. What was it “over paid, over sexed, and over here.”The French were a complete shambles. They had, apparently, the strongest army in the world. However, their mind were stuck in 1918 trenches, and still believed that static warfare was the way forward (hence maginot line etc). A bit of border sabre rattling wasn’t going to scare teh Germans. The Italians (leaders) on teh other hand wanted a bit of expansion – reember they had been in action in Abyssinia for some time. trouble for them was, they were pish. They contributed to the downfall of Germany lter in the war in Africa.
Even though, again, Hitler’s supporters were mainly the usual suspects, the industrialists, lawyers, doctors – the monied people.
Depends on the stage of the rise of the Third Reich to which you refer, and the audience. Remember, the Nazi Party (National Socialist German Workers Party) should have been exactly that – Socialist. Early money collected from the industrialists was done in absloute, utmost secrecy.Grimes,
I dont think that you fill find many people that rould describe him as a ’round shilling’, but the description of a half wit is just about as far from the truth as one can get. onsider the following:To found a political party,
To portray you party as being whatever an individual wanted it to be, in order to lead it to unconditional leadership.
To subdugate the (then) independant miliarty.
To illegaly build up a miliaty under the noses of Western powers.
To take over countries without shots being fired, both with and without conievance of other states.
The list continues. All of the above, are not the acions of a half wit. Indeed, they are the actions of possibly the most explosive polital figure ever to have lived.
Grimes, this was overed on another thread, so I’l respond with the same answer
“A vote for Hogg is vote for Hitler”! AND HE WON THE SEAT.
This by-election was a single issue by-election, and hogg was basically put in place to supprt to ‘official’ goverment appeasment policy, in order to keep Britain out of a war. It is unfair to quote just the above, which implies he ws a Nazi supporter.Chomsky says tha as late as 1938, our leaders could probably have stopped Hitler and the Nazis in their tracks; but certainly in 1937. But they didnt want to! Why do you think so many documents are to be kept secret for 100 years?
This ignores the wider political and miliatry situation both in Europe and worldwide. Taken on its own, it is, infact, nonsense.syphilitic half-wit, like Hitler.
Many things that Hitler was, and indeed wasn’t, a half wit he certainy was not.I’m sure some of TRFSs more knowlegeable readers can correct me, but having backed the second, I do feel a little be agrieved to be honest.
Most of what you read about the last war is made up
Ummm, thats interesting Dave. Care to expand?The Nazis argued successfully at Nurenburg that democracy hadn’t worked in Germany and that dictatorship was the only option
With very good reason too, if you look at the sham that was the Weimar rebublic.They argued so well in fact they were not allowed to speak before they were murdered.
Do you mean at the trial or at the hangmans noose? In the court room, some historians argue that the nuremburg trials were a complete farce.[
I’d read about this before, am pretty sure that historically the russians absolutely hate the polish
A bit of a simplistic outlook. Poland had a very chequred history, streching back hundreds of years. Due to its leaders’ infighting, both Russia and Germany, amongst others, had found it easy to repeatedly ‘pinch’ Polish land. Both ultimately considered Poland to be ‘rogue’.Hitlers biggest ever mistake was turning on Stalin, as he couldn’t fight the Russians and defend against the Allies (although in theory stalin was part of the big three).
Something that the German Military certainly agreed with, looking back at the ill fated attempts of Napolean. Most of the military were horified at the prospect of invading Russia. Heinz Gurderian spelled this out in his miliary work Actung : Panzer!Stalin’s biggest mistake was that he killed almost the entire command in his army when he seized power as to him they all represented a threat to his leadership, and to prevent any coups they were rounded up and executed.
Stalins military purges did not occur until mid-late 1930’s, he seized power in the 1920’s, although itis true to state that ethnic cleasing of Russia had been going on for years (eg peasants)Stalin won his war against hitler because he just didnt care about his people, he would send huge numbers to fight the better trained and equipped germans, and when the russians retreated they burnt everything, so as to put pressure on the stretched german logistics.
The famous ‘scortched earth’ policy. Although it should also be mentioned that the Russians were at this time heavily dependant on lent military equipment from Britain,and in particular America.Yes at one point in the documentary it said this was because of a conflict in the 1920s when the Polish had inflicted a heavy defeat on the Russians.
The Treaty of Versialle did not accurately define the borders of Poland, the Poles took the oportunity to try to expand, which was rebuffed by the Russians. Both sides apparently claimed victory. Howver, the treaty of Versaille did implement the Poish Coridor, effectively cutting of part of Germany from Germany Itself. This was possibly the most hated part of the treaty as far as the Germans were concered, and a major factor in the onset of WW2.It also said that Hitler planned all along to invade Russia and he was just keeping Stalin on side until he defeated the British.
Undoubtedly. Other than France (Germany’s historical enemy) the war in the West was merely a side show to the coing war in the East, hence the German expresson Leibensraum Ost (spelling?) – Living Room in the East. Hitler at that time consiered that Britain had been effectively silienced, something which was, as that time, fundamentaly, true.I suppose I should get out more!
The allies (of which stalin was at one time) had plenty time, and oportunity, to step in to quell German ambitions well before the GermanRusso pact was signed.
They instead did nothing, primarily trying to avoid going to war with Germany.
Not a month in and we have the old Arkle saga beling dragged out again. Yawn. Cue the responses……..
Personally I cannot have this whole Arkle thing, never have, never will (whilst not trying to suggest that he was not a very very good horse). To mind there is something askew in these figures and nothing will convince me otherwise.
Thats me finished with this tired (imo) old discussion.
That’s about the most idiotic ignorant post I have ever read on here……not worthy of any other responses. Other than you could be right and all the jockeys trainers handicapper sports jounalists and punters of the time got it wrong..Yawn!!! is right go back to bed and give up racing mate you obviously don’t have a clue about the game
Of course you would view it as "idiotc" and "ignorant". Anything which doesn’t agree with your point of view would be.
Not a month in and we have the old Arkle saga beling dragged out again. Yawn. Cue the responses……..
Personally I cannot have this whole Arkle thing, never have, never will (whilst not trying to suggest that he was not a very very good horse). To mind there is something askew in these figures and nothing will convince me otherwise.
Thats me finished with this tired (imo) old discussion.
The easiest race of next years classics to predict goes to the most impressive performance of a 2yo in the Phoenix stakes at the Curragh;
MASTERCRAFTSMAN, Everything about this colt oozes class particularly the ground he covers at the gallop! A stiff mile at Newmarket will suit this unfurnished beast who over the winter should grow into his impressive frame! He handles any ground but ideally wants good going! I can see him hitting the front 2 out having had a blistering 6f pace set by Sea of marmara
and powering clear of his rivals( Art Conneissour and the sprinter Rip van winkle) Naaqoos has no chance with his fly-leaping style of running! Currently 12/1 is available for Mastercraftsman, take it!I’ll give you something chap, you seem to have all angles covered on all races.
This time next year you’ll be a millionaire.Fist, This years Champion hurdle winner is Jered! Binocular will not be the 2nd successive 5yo to claim the Champions crown even though he is a fine prospect! Tony McCoy will ride Jered and Barry Geraghty will be on Binocular and as great a 2 prospects as they are it is the older horse that
is favoured due to the improvement he shows in every race!Unless he turns out to be another soft as sh1t pansie like countless other Noel "Best I’ve ever Trained" Meade when asked to race up Cheltenham hill.
I am of the theory that the big 2 Denman/Kauto are not worth backing Ante-post for the Gold Cup which is over 4 months away purely at the restrictive odds they currently trade and the fact that the P.Nicholls camp
are split as to who is actually the better! Their form is above every horse that has challenged them and failed so i am looking for something that hasn"t run against either but is progressing with experience and has Gold Cup aspirations! ALBERTAS RUN ticks all the boxes and at 33/1 could be an e/w player! After he has won the Hennessey he will be aimed for the Gold Cup! Trevor Hemmings knows this horse has a touch of the Trabolgans about him!You’ve got to stop this nonsense now. Seriously.
