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    worzelwaywardlad
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    Prehaps it’s just my age but noticed a horse called Zuhair won a maiden at Nottingham and it took me back to the old Dandy Nicholls sprinter. i know this happens these days but is it right that the same name is being used in a relatively short space of time? Think they are both homebreds so there’s not even a suffix after their name.

    #1544681
    IanDavies
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    Do NOT get me started!

    It’s all the time!

    Gorytus, Low Profile – so many!

    Ban it or resurrect a mandatory “II, III etc” suffix!

    https://m.facebook.com/pages/category/Personal-Blog/The-Point-to-Point-NH-Flat-racing-punter-105339604816039/

    #1544688
    apracing
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    The oddity here is that both horses were named by the same owner. The old Zuhair began life with Major Dick Hern in the colours of Hamdan Al Maktoum. Who also owned the current Zuhair when it made its debut last year.

    Twenty five years between the foaling dates and the old Zuhair won’t be appearing in any pedigrees, so not much risk of confusion. It’s just those of us who were regulars at Goodwood around the turn of the century that will recall Zuhair the First, King of the Sprint Handicaps.

    #1544698
    Cork All Star
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    I have started to notice a few names of horses I can remember cropping up again.

    I think it can be filed under “Getting Old”. ;-)

    #1544700
    The Tatling Cheekily
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    Another vote for it being annoying. I cannot see entries currently for Johnstones stayer ‘The Trader’ without subconsciously assuming the race is a sprint handicap. I was absolutely obsessed with sprinting when The Trader and my namesake The Tatling were banging heads seemingly every week. Fond memories.

    Tangent – I remember having a big bet on Tatters 4/5/07. 5f on rattling ground (remember when that was allowed?) at Mussleborough. Both the commentator, and the RP analysis, had him winning “Cheekily” under Darryl Holland, from River Falcon. Hence the username.

    #1544701
    Marlingford
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    Totally agree on this. There is a list of “protected names” that can’t be used permanently, but it is woefully short. The argument that names need to be recycled or they will run out doesn’t make sense either seeing as the possibilities are practically infinite.

    #1544719
    IanDavies
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    1. IMO there is an infinite number of permutations of letters that can give every horse from Frankel to the slowest selling plater a unique name which is protected and thus immortalised.

    2. If I am wrong and/or that will not work worldwide logistically, after the original every repeat use should carry the suffix “II,” “III” etc.

    I am sure I saw a Bunker Hill III run in a point-to-point once and I am fine with that.

    But this direct copying has to end!

    I am confident if the next owner who does it is publicly executed it will put a swift end to this heinous practice.

    Sound like a plan?

    https://m.facebook.com/pages/category/Personal-Blog/The-Point-to-Point-NH-Flat-racing-punter-105339604816039/

    #1544721
    The Tatling Cheekily
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    If I bought a foal by a 30 rated colt, out of a 30 rated mare, would I be within my rights to call my horse ‘Frankel’? Seems stupid.

    #1544727
    TROY111
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    No TTC, why not use numbers 1 – 100 then 101, and so on infinity. sorted no more king Frankel, etc.

    #1544728
    Cork All Star
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    I believe Classic winners names are protected, so Frankel as a Guineas winner cannot be used again.

    #1544729
    Nathan Hughes
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    He won very nicely..
    Some size on him too

    Member since March 2008
    #1544730
    The Tatling Cheekily
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    Didn’t know that CAS, but I approve.

    #1544732
    Nathan Hughes
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    Just Gabriel Frankel
    and Sizing Frankel and My Frankel
    Reckon Frankel will have more named after him than anything else

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    #1544733
    The Tatling Cheekily
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    Seems like he has no end already.

    Can’t wait for Droopys Frankel, Minella Frankel, and Monbeg Frankel.

    #1544738
    Cork All Star
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    Just wish King Frankel could have won the first at Epsom last Saturday. That defeat still hurts a bit. :cry:

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