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Thanks Triptych, I’m sure I will! I can imagine that Newmarket could feel a bit bleak on a cold, windy rainy day as it’s very exposed. Was very pleasant on Friday though
Lovely picture Tonge, she is a real stunner isn’t she and she’s even posing for you.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Another day, another Frankel Stakes winner as Aljazeera wins easily at Yarmouth. She has done nothing but improve and will stay in training next year.
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Another day, another Frankel Stakes winner as Aljazeera wins easily at Yarmouth. She has done nothing but improve and will stay in training next year.
We need dem Group 1’s though
Well there we go. Best moment since Frankel.
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Hadn’t a bean on him and missed the racing as working all day…but very much looking forward to the replay. And next year…the Frankels at Four….
On Racing Post ratings that is the single best performance from any horse this year at 131.
A rapidly improving colt, who I hope winters well and comes back better next year.
It was annoying to hear the likes of AP on ITV saying he thought he was too slow for the champion stakes. If you’re going to talk about a horses speed, isn’t it a good idea to check the sectionals of his previous races?
On Racing Post ratings that is the single best performance from any horse this year at 131.
A rapidly improving colt, who I hope winters well and comes back better next year.
If Cracksman improves next year Dex, I believe Frankel will be the first Timeform 140+ horse to sire another Timeform 140 horse.
Value Is EverythingOn Racing Post ratings that is the single best performance from any horse this year at 131.
A rapidly improving colt, who I hope winters well and comes back better next year.
It was annoying to hear the likes of AP on ITV saying he thought he was too slow for the champion stakes. If you’re going to talk about a horses speed, isn’t it a good idea to check the sectionals of his previous races?
Yes completely clueless. I reckon Cracksman would also have won the QE2 today if he had run in that race.
Frankel is a freak, Cracksman is the stamp of him, bar a slightly darker colour on his coat, and in fact he was even more impressive than Frankel himself was in the same contest.
To be fair, Judge.
Those in second and third in Frankel’s Champion were a lot better quality than today’s. There’s plenty of room to fit some top class horses between Cracksman and Poet’s Word.Value Is EverythingTo be fair, Judge.
Those in second and third in Frankel’s Champion were a lot better quality than today’s. There’s plenty of room to fit some top class horses between Cracksman and Poet’s Word.Totally agree with you. The french horse that finished second to Frankel (whose name escapes me- shoot me now
) was a level above horses like Barney Roy, Brametot etc.But, GT, Frankel was a year older, and considerably more experienced. He was given an RPR of 136 that day against his son’s 131 today – not that much in it.
The real excitement about Cracksman for me is that he has always been much less of a finished article than his father was at this stage. Frankel was built like the real thing almost from day one. And I feel that Cracksman has considerably more scope physically for growth.
Impossible to directly compare their campaigns at equivalent stages and ages but on OR, Frankel was judged to have improved 9lbs during his 3-y-o career. If, as I expect, Cracksman gets 128 or maybe 129 now, he will have improved about 35lbs – obviously from a much lower base but that’s not his fault having run just once at two.
I rarely look forward to a Flat season but for Cracksman alone, next year will be fascinating. Let’s hope he stays sound.
Gosden commented that he is 17kg heavier now than he was in the spring and Dettori stated the Cracksman he rode today compared to the one at Epsom were two completely different horses.
Fingers crossed he has no problems between now and the start of next season – would hate to see him have a Jack Hobbs like 4 yr old career.
Just so pleased that Frankel has once again proved his doubters wrong. He has taken plenty of stick over the season, including on this thread, but some of us never doubted. He was written-off by many back in June but now we are seeing his progeny improving with age and that can only be exciting for those that love our sport. This day has been a long time coming – well 5 years, since 20th October 2012 – but it was well worth the wait.
Roll on next year and Cracksman V Enable. The mouth waters……..
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
I was responding to Judge’s point about Cracksman being “even more impressive” than frankel. ie Being impressive against today’s field was a lot easier and – as you say – Frankel’s performance was a 5 lbs better performance.
It does not matter whether one is a three year old and one a four year old; it’s a weight for age race. I’d be very surprised if Cracksman improves in to a horse as good as his sire. Frankel was a freak, from what I saw at Newbury and Goodwood he had superb conformation and a fluent, giant stride. Cracksman is a good looking son but not as imposing and his stride although fairly long is nowhere near as good, in fact it is slightly rounded. There are similarities between the two in maturity, Frankel may well have been a better physical specimen, but he was immature in mind. Cracksman was immature prior to York, but imo has matured a lot since. Although can see Cracksman improving at four, I think you may be taking too much notice of the trainer and owner’s words. However, with Cracksman, Enable, Battaash, Harry’s Angel etc 2018 is going to be one to look forward to.
Value Is EverythingI think before you get too carried away though Joe what he lacks is Frankel’s consistency. Cracksman showed today that he’s capable of the kind of freakish display that Frankel made commonplace but what really stands out for me about Frankel was his win record. To go through a long career unbeaten is extraordinary, Cracksman has been beaten twice already and yes you can put that down to him growing into himself, but I wouldn’t put him in the Frankel category for that reason.
Frankel could win even when he had an off day (st james palace) and Cracksman has yet to show that ability yet. In fact the horse he reminds me of more is not his sire but Dubai Millenium, who was also beaten in the Derby but then produced a freakish display over 10 furlongs at Ascot.
I yet to be completely convinced that Cracksman won’t throw in a stinker at some point next season, because he is in my view still a mortal horse, even if a hugely impressive one.
) was a level above horses like Barney Roy, Brametot etc.
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