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I don’t normally make this kind of post, live and let live and all that, but he’s taking the biscuit. This is an exert from the RP article. In my opinion, which is worth thin air, they should draft in another jockey if he can’t make it. I don’t care whos horses they are.
[b:1sesvu0j]Waley-Cohen[/color:1sesvu0j][/b:1sesvu0j], whose family own both horses, had planned to take a helicopter between both tracks but a change to the timings of the Newbury race, which will now start 35 minutes earlier at 3.10, means there will not be enough time for [b:1sesvu0j]Waley-Cohen[/color:1sesvu0j][/b:1sesvu0j] to get from Warwick, where Long Run is due to contest the Totesport.com Kingmaker Novices’ Chase at 2.20, to ride Stravinsky Dance in the £150,000 handicap hurdle, who was entered for the race on Monday afternoon.
"They’ve changed the wretched timings," the amateur rider said.
"It’s very frustrating. I will definitely ride at Warwick. I definitely won’t get off Long Run. We will have to see what we do with Stravinsky Dance. I suspect she won’t run if I can’t ride.
We have to make that decision closer to the race. If she is in fantastic form we might just run her anyway but I suspect the inclination is to not run her."I completly agree. Spoilt brat is the first thing that came to my mind also. He’s like a child with a toy, and if he cant play with it then nobody can. He has to learn that jumps racing is all about the horse, and very little to do with the man on top.
If the above quote is the extent of what he said, I think calling him a spilt (presumably ‘spoilt’) brat is a bit unfair. He sounded a little hacked-off, which is fair enough in the circumstances, but just because he used the word "wretched", doesn’t mean he’s thrown a tantrum.
If there is more to be quoted, then let’s hear it – but if there’s nothing else, it comes across more a case of class warriordom on both your parts, than pram-emptying on Waley-Cohen’s.
All that said, if he could helpfully break something between now and March 14th, allowing a professional jock to get onto Long Run for the Festival, I wouldn’t exactly weep salt tears.
He’ll get his comupance, I hope he does ride Long Run in The RSA, he’ll be on his arse in no time at all, I just hope he keeps out of the way of the genuine contenders.
Both these horses are very over hyped their PR machine is working overtime, whatever they paid for Stravinsy Dance was too much considering his debut and Long Run might make a decent chaser one day but not this year and only if they don’t go down the route taken by last year’s hype horse, Cappa Bleu, over try the animal and nearly wreck what they’d got, which was not a lot really, if he’d stuck to Hunter Chasing he could probably done the Weatherbys double this year ….in the absence of An Siorrac, of course.
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You are clearly totally ignorant of the level of form that Long Run achieved at Auteuil – and also at Kempton – CheltenhamSpecialist…..presumably because he hasn’t run at Cheltenham yet.
Since when is sharing an opinion ‘warriordom’ ? You aren’t short of an opinion or two yourself Grasshoper. It’s only common sense that, if the horse is penciled to run in a specirfic race, it goes ahead with a different jockey. It should be for the jockeys benefit, not his. Stravinsky dance didn’t exactly set things alight LTO anyway.
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What about those who have backed Stravinsky Dance ante-post, Grass? Should they be on the verge of losing their money because poor baby Waley-Cohen can’t ride daddy-waddy’s horse?
At best it’s arrogant ignorance. At worst, over-indulged petulence (and yes, were it any other jockey it would simply be ignorance or petulence).
On reflection, I think I may have missed the original point being made – which was about Stravinsky Dance being pulled because SWC can’t ride (it seems so obvious now).
I’d say the decision is somewhat churlish, and if the horse is ready to race, then they really should be finding another jockey for it. I’m still not sure that this equates to SWC being a "spoilt brat", but can now see why you might interpret it that way.
Edit: Cross-over post, GK – I’ve amended my stance after giving it due consideration to the sound of a penny dropping.
No I’m not "Totally ignorant" If I were you I’d ask for a full refund of your charm school fees
French form doesn’t always translate to The UK, he’s going to have to learn to jump a lot better
He’ll get his comupance, I hope he does ride Long Run in The RSA, he’ll be on his [expletive] in no time at all, I just hope he keeps out of the way of the genuine contenders.
Both these horses are very over hyped their PR machine is working overtime, whatever they paid for Stravinsy Dance was too much considering his debut and Long Run might make a decent chaser one day but not this year and only if they don’t go down the route taken by last year’s hype horse, Cappa Bleu, over try the animal and nearly wreck what they’d got, which was not a lot really, if he’d stuck to Hunter Chasing he could probably done the Weatherbys double this year ….in the absence of An Siorrac, of course.
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CS,
I think you’ll find that Long Run has won a grade 1 novice chase by half the track, pulling a cart while trying to take several fences home with him. If that doesn’t make him a "genuine contender" in the Cheltenham novices or a "decent chaser" right now then you have seriously high standards !
Did you see Tazbar the other day ? Looked good didn’t he – that was the horse that Long Run steamrollered on boxing day ! Surely that Feltham form is more than decent already ? Fair enough he might tip up at Cheltenham but if he jumps a clear he’s bound to be bang in contention in any of the novice races. Definitely a genuine contender.
The French form has already translated to the UK, CheltenhamSpecialist – or didn’t you see the Feltham?
I’d also want to see Long Run jump better, and I’d also like to see him ridden by a professional jockey. It’s the assertion that this multiple Grade 1 winner (hurdles and fences) should be plying his trade in Hunter Chases that I take issue with.
Grasshopper…read my post again, I didn’t say he should be running in Hunter Chases, nothing like that
RTead it again you’ll see i was comaring the hype that follows Long Run despite his obvious flaws as being similar to the hype after Cappa Bleu won a substandard Weatherbys in 2009Long Run has won four out of five novice chases, including a Listed, a Grade 3 and two Grade 1’s.
In what way is the horse "hyped", and how do you come to the conclusion that a Hunter Chase winner is in any way a reasonable comparison?
Scottish Jamie
The RSA past is littered with "great" novices that didn’t jump well enough….Nick Dundee springs immediately to mind but he was just one of many
Grasshopper….let me spell it out,
I’m comparing the
HYPE
NOT the
HORSES,
Cappa Bleu
if you believed the hype
was "going to win the 2010 Gold Cup" now do you follow?
Incidentally, talking "hunter chasers" there is one in Ireland that I’ll guarantee will be a better horse than Long Run
His name…..AN SIORRAC….remember it!
Who are these people who thought Cappa Bleu was capable of beating Kauto Star and/or Denman? Presumably they are now in some sort of sanitarium, being fed mashed vegetables through a chute to sustain them?
Regardless, I ask again, where is the "hype" surrounding Long Run? The odds on offer in both the Arkle and RSA markets are entirely warranted on form grounds, and the horse bolted-up from a rival who emphatically franked the form at the weekend.
Long Run is only a "hype" horse if he has come onto your radar late, and you have no appreciation for what he achieved in France.
PS, An Siorrac is one I know all about, and I too believe he can go onto great things when he comes back from injury. At least we can agree on something.
Scottish Jamie
The RSA past is littered with "great" novices that didn’t jump well enough….Nick Dundee springs immediately to mind but he was just one of many
CS,
Yes, I agree but that’s not your point as I understand it. Any horse can fall in any race – that’s the nature of NH racing. You suggest that Long Run is not a genuine contender and should "keep out the way" as if he is a 200/1 shot with no realistic hope of getting involved. Should Nick Dundee not have run in the RSA even though most people think he was about to win the race when he fell ? Was Moscow Flyer not a good chaser because every now and then he blundered away his chances ?
I think you have to have a bit more respect for the engine that Long Run has even if you doubt his jumping ability. Let’s suppose he get’s round with no more than the odd minor error – where do you see him finishing in either the Arkle or the RSA ?
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