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I thought Jim Best withdrew two horses from the race. Anyhow regarding the improved form I would suggest all Jim Best need have done is take a copy of the Racing Post into the Stewards Room with him.
Rocky Ryan was the Spotlight Selection (assuming Spotlights in the RP & on RP’s Betting Site are the same.) and I’m sure the RP forecast was a lot shorter than 8/1 (but can’t remember)
I don’t think from a punters point a view there was a lot to compain about.
Correct Jim Best did have two withdrawals, however the other was a relatively early one – Jades Double was a later withdrawal – after the early prices had been available and taken.
The RP tissue was either 9/2 or 11/2 I can’t remember which without going to look it up – the 8/1 was available, and taken, on Betfair the previous evening.
This was a good old fashioned coup as far as I am concerned and it wasn’t a particularly well hidden one to be honest.
TDK, being a bookie, may not see the funny side of it however, although anyone who looked at the form carefully and noticed the ptp win over the same distance would not have been too surprised.
By the time I "twigged" all of the value had gone.
We didn’t lose much on either race to be honest.
In the case of today’s gamble at Southwell, it isn’t today’s performance that concerns me. I would like to know (and the BHA should be investigating) who was laying the same horse at 4 times its tissue price on one of its "duck egg" runs….
Gerald whe it comes to gamble , your gonna need a hell of a lot more than Beyonce to bail you out
Get with the programme Bud
Ricky
I think it’s there for all to see in both performances. Shrewd investing in my opinion
Nothing shrewder than paying 50k for a winning Irish pointer, getting a mark of 90 and then throwing in a late jockey change to ice the cake.
There’s only one war the BHA are fighting and it ain’t against corruption. It’s against punters trying to win a few quid by making sense of the publicly available information. They’ve won some notable battles in that war over the last couple of days and the champagne corks will doubtless be popping at HQ tonight as a result.
The only corners being turned today were the sharp lefts to the slow lane of certain defeat at Southwell by umpteen ‘value’ horses.
Did they even deign to ask Callaghan a question about My Sweet Georgia’s run at Great Leighs on Nov 6th? Two to one to finish in the first three in what was effectively a four-runner race? It’s a total free for all.
The only trainers and jockeys that must be quaking in their boots at the moment are the honest ones. It can’t be long before their licences are removed for running their horses straight and costing the sport levy.
If racing is’nt straight, it must be very easy to lay a horse and make a decent living. I think deep down we all know it is a very hard game to win no matter what side you are on.
Some people on this thread better be a bit more careful what they say.
Guilty until proven inocent eh?
Mark
Value Is Everything
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In the case of today’s gamble at Southwell, it isn’t today’s performance that concerns me. I would like to know (and the BHA should be investigating) who was laying the same horse at 4 times its tissue price on one of its "duck egg" runs….
Come on TDK?
As these 2 results show, racing clearly has far bigger integrity problems than any amount of pursuing ‘jockey inspired’ lays will ever deal with.
When was the last time the BHA even uttered the words "suspicious betting patterns" in regard to any coup where the horse involved actually won, let alone investigated them?Tube found in Tom Dascombe’s stable….
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Is £750 an appropriate penalty for this offence?
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I think it depends on what the paste was designed to achieve, but it does seem strange that only one of (at least) twenty-two empty tubes was overlooked prior to travelling to Leicester.
I thought you meant they’d found Thommo in there! (only joking of course Mr T if you’re looking in)
Odd that a man who has gone into business with a multi-millionaire to train Group 1 winners calls that an ‘expensive mistake’.
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Maybe the (relatively) small fine is representative of the fact that the BHA
don’t
see the hypodermic, or race-fixing, behind every single result?
Not the first time we have seen a relative slap on the wrist for these "odd" veterinary items appearing in stables – there were 2 similar incidents at the Cesarewitch last year…
It is quite possible that this was an honest mistake from Dascombe, but the appearance of tubes in racecourse stables is surely totally unacceptable – and if the BHA want to be seen to be tough on regulating drug abuse in the sport, then we need to see tougher penalties than this.
This hardly inspires confidence after the Henderson debacle….
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