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Ginge
Don’t tell me he consults the table of odds as he’s unable to convert percentages into odds without it and bingo he has the winnersIf it helps Jeremy, remind her who the 4-3 thriller was against. You could also throw in a reference to the last time they went to Wembley
We are struggling to get a team out so Baggies should walk it
Not another anti-Nevison thread.
Anyone who does not understand the mathematics of betting will have problems understanding how Dave Nevison works. Anyone who does understand it will know exactly how he makes a profit.
Ginge
There will always be anti-Nevison people because they want to believe making a living from gambling can’t be done, because they can’t do it themselves.
Until someone shows me a photo of him working a 9-5 job, I will believe that he is a successful professional gambler.Ginge
Don’t tell me he consults the table of odds as he’s unable to convert percentages into odds without it and bingo he has the winnersYes, he does use the table and of course he is able to convert percentages. He told everyone (not in so many words) in his book, when talking about Eddie Freemantle showing him how to make a tissue.
Ginge
Value Is EverythingNot another anti-Nevison thread.
Anyone who does not understand the mathematics of betting will have problems understanding how Dave Nevison works. Anyone who does understand it will know exactly how he makes a profit.
Ginge
FFS ginge stop droning on about value. Children of about 12 understand the concept of probablilty, and converting percentage chance into fractions (or odds). It used to be taught in Maths classes when I was in form one.
The art is whether your tissues are consistently more accurate than the bookies ones, and in this day and age, of betfair making the tissues for them, and the betfair tissues being so pure (ie, not just the product of one man’s opinion) you just can;t make money like that. Hence the brown rings under his eyes, the scruffy look, the slightly dazed appearance, and the multiple appearances on RUK to pay his rent.The art is whether your tissues are consistently more accurate than the bookies ones, and in this day and age, of betfair making the tissues for them
Then it comes down to being able to make a more accurate tissue than the market.
This is possible if you pick and choose your races carefully (e.g. wait for a horse that you think is overrated or underrated and, if you’re right, the market is bound to be "wrong").
Personally, I’m surprised Nevison can beat the market while betting on so many races each day, but with margins so tight and so many ways to bet, maybe it’s easier than I think.
Steve
Not another anti-Nevison thread.
Anyone who does not understand the mathematics of betting will have problems understanding how Dave Nevison works. Anyone who does understand it will know exactly how he makes a profit.
Ginge
FFS ginge stop droning on about value. Children of about 12 understand the concept of probablilty, and converting percentage chance into fractions (or odds). It used to be taught in Maths classes when I was in form one.
The art is whether your tissues are consistently more accurate than the bookies ones, and in this day and age, of betfair making the tissues for them, and the betfair tissues being so pure (ie, not just the product of one man’s opinion) you just can;t make money like that. Hence the brown rings under his eyes, the scruffy look, the slightly dazed appearance, and the multiple appearances on RUK to pay his rent.FFS WW,
I only drone on about the table because so many punters do not realise its significance. They have forgotten what they were taught at school.
To say Betfairs tissue is pure because it is not one mans product is rediculous in the extreme. There are many knowledgeable punters on the exchanges but thousands more mug punters too. These mug punters money make it EASIER to make a profit by using the table. Also, if you look at the exchange market at say 23:00 the night before a race, it is often very different to the prices offered just before the off.
Maybe the bags under the eyes, dazed look comes from form study.I note WW, you do not tell us how you make a profit without making tissues, I wonder why?
Ginge
Value Is EverythingNevison says he isn’t a sit at home punter, and that he much prefers being at the track. He’d have to be winning even more if he was paying circa 25 quid a pop on entry fees 4/5 times a week. However by doing the odd newspaper column and TV appearance, he gets a press badge that gets him free access to the track, comfortable surroundings (at most places) to be able to plug in his laptop to watch the markets, and has the chance to mix in circles which seems to allow him to be able to get on the chunky ew bets through bookies pr reps that most other pros were forced to give up years ago.
Since when did writing a book become an assumption of times being hard? Steve Mellish has a tipping line…big deal.
With price manipulation rife on the exchanges, BF prices are often where the off course bookmakers want them, not where they would be if the exchange prices were 100% efficient all of the time. Which is a good thing imo. You don’t hear the big 3 whining about the exchanges any more, now that they’ve learnt how to ¨use¨ them.
Interesting post CR- could you be a liitle more specific about how you think the off-course bookies are "using" the exchanges, apart from the obvious of hedging through them?
Hence the brown rings under his eyes, the scruffy look, the slightly dazed appearance, and the multiple appearances on RUK to pay his rent.
**** me. Those waves of poisonous jealousy nearly knocked me off my chair!
I cannot wait for your Racing Post article, wizardman. I have a strong feeling you’re in for a seriously bumpy ride.
Not another anti-Nevison thread.
Anyone who does not understand the mathematics of betting will have problems understanding how Dave Nevison works. Anyone who does understand it will know exactly how he makes a profit.
Ginge
FFS ginge stop droning on about value. Children of about 12 understand the concept of probablilty, and converting percentage chance into fractions (or odds). It used to be taught in Maths classes when I was in form one.
.Well said mate. Ginge seems to think no one but the bare few understands the concept of value and percentage.
Ginge do you actually have any opinions on horse racing that you can share without droning on about percentage?
Bang on Flash. I want to hear views on horse racing not be taken back to my GSCE mathamatics class.
If you believe his column in The RFO, Nevison loses every week: he’s always either made a mistake in-running, laid a horse after thinking it looked bad in the paddock and then it’s won easily, backed a horse which has lost in exceptionally unfortunate circumstances, or done something else comically inept.
False modesty is not a wholly endearing trait but is welcome in a little world where indecent boasting prevails viz crowing about winners.
Ginge do you actually have any opinions on horse racing that you can share without droning on about percentage?
FFS, this is a thread where people are questioning whether a particular tipster is able to make the game pay… how can we not be talking about the ability to find value?
Steve
but making it pay lies in how accurate your tissues are….we can all make 100% books, easy maths, but do the horses that you got as under in yours consistently do well? Ive no evidence that DN or ginger’s do, they just keep saying that you have to make 100% tissues…..well thats the obvious bit, so put a few up in the mornings lads and lets see how you do.
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