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Anyone think Well Chief was very untidy and landed very awkwardly after a couple of fences, really hitting the ground hard looked like he would have some sore pasterns tonight.
Any news about Pipe on how Well Chief returned, anyone?
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Are people in danger of overlooking a career-best effort from Twist Magic simply because a) they think he’s a bit of a rogue, and b) he has an excellent record at Sandown?
Whichever way you look at it Twist Magic has beaten that field absolutely senseless and no re-working of tactics, or vain attempts to convince oneself that any particular horse was ridden incorrectly (Forpadydeplasterer was indeed in front soon enough in the Arkle to make idling a suspect excuse), would have changed that. He’s destroyed them and as I said to Fist last night, I heard yesterday afternoon that connections now think he’ll stay further than two miles – hence their confidence that the ground wouldn’t be a problem today and their desire to aim him at the Champion Chase.
Wouldn’t be backing Twist Magic for anything on the strength of that run.
Given a soft lead in a slowly run race (almost 2 seconds slower than earlier novice chase), his suspect stamina was never likely to be tested, and he’ll be lucky to find another race as soft all season.
Well Chief never jumped a fence, – maybe it was the soft ground (though times suggest it was on the good side of soft), or maybe it was his dodgy leg, but certainly no sign of his usual slick and accurate jumping.
Given that the ground wasn’t all that bad (it certainly didn’t look it), I’m amazed that AP didn’t make it more of a test, for it looked for all the world as if FPDP was ridden with another day in mind.
Come back Masterminded; all is forgiven.
I would certainly back Twist Magic if he were to bypass Cheltenham in favour of Punchestown (Kerrygold CC) or Sandown (Celebration Chase).
Hard to fault that performance today. Always a pleasure to see top class two mile chasers jumping for fun around Sandown.
Had Master Minded demolished that field today, the time of the race would have been ignored and many would be heralding another virtuoso performance by the champion chaser.
Forpady, as his form figures suggest, will often find one too good, especially at this level. A good performance today, but if he goes for the Champion Chase he will run into Master Minded, Big Zeb (who will be suited by better ground around Cheltenham) and Well Chief (still retains enough ability to run a big race). If connections favour the Ryanair he will meet Voy Por Ustedes and you can just about stick a pin on anything and it can run a big race. It promises to be a very competitive renewal.
That was a pleasure to watch today. Twist Magic jumped them silly and Ruby was majestic in the saddle.
Thing with Twist Magic is he is a Sandown specialist to me and I’d be fairly surprised if he won another race this season, he is capable but he just seems to perform at his very best at Sandown.
Forpadydeplasterer ran way better than had hoped on the ground and he can only improve when you see him on good ground.
Well Chief beat Masterminded by not that much, and Masterminded had a cracked rib and was giving them 10lbs so the form of that race was could have been a bit dodgy.
Big Zeb just doesn’t travel well on his journeys hence why they werent keen to send him to the Tingle Creek, the absense of Master Minded probably tempted him to come here, hopefully he will be a nice price in a big race in Ireland where I beleive he will crush his opposition. Not as bad as the race has shown to made him look today.
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Am I missing something here?
That was the worst round of jumping by would be QMCC horses I’ve seen in years, bar Twist Magic of course. By the looks of things he never jumped them ragged they jumped themselves ragged.
Unless I am sadly mistaken it was run over exactly the same course as the novice chase 30 minutes earlier? Can’t believe it was actually 2 seconds slower……So unless I am missing something Ruby was not going fast, they were going so slow none of them would have been in the first 3 against the novices
I haven’t re-watched the novice event but it took a couple of seconds from the tape being raised for Twist Magic to go on in the Tingle Creek. Ruby then settled Twist after the second fence. He went quicker in different stages notably when attacking those seven fences. While the novices were tanking Ruby was just letting Twist Magic freewheel until about two out when he asked him to lengthen.
I wouldn’t make too much of the time.
Twist Magic was very good today and Forpadydeplasterer probably ran to form the other three below par. Well Chief didn’t jump well and Big Zeb never looked remotely likely to be a threat.
Wouldn’t be backing Twist Magic for anything on the strength of that run.
Given a soft lead in a slowly run race (almost 2 seconds slower than earlier novice chase), his suspect stamina was never likely to be tested, and he’ll be lucky to find another race as soft all season.
Well Chief never jumped a fence, – maybe it was the soft ground (though times suggest it was on the good side of soft), or maybe it was his dodgy leg, but certainly no sign of his usual slick and accurate jumping.If ever there was a sound candidate to be affected by the mysterious ‘bounce’ , or at least one unlikely to be over the exertions of his last race, it would have been Well Chief today. A career plagued by problems since his ’05 annus mirabilis and just the two runs (when fresh) since April ’07 coming into the race today as a near-11yo
With the glaring exception of the Racing Post, most thought WC’s Connaught Chase win weak form and that appraisal can only have been strengthened by his and Mahogany Blaze’s run today.
Agree that backing Twist Magic in the future based on today’s visual evidence would be folly. Walsh gave him a sensible ride given the likely pre-race pace considerations and the horse enjoyed the experience. Happy horses jumping well granted a soft lead tend to look impressive and ‘fast’ but in all likelihood the pace was only steadyish which helped this suspect stayer see out the hill well.
It’s not difficult to pick holes in the opposition. FPDP is not a horse whose attitude I warm too, is not a particularly good fencer and is now looking exposed at 150ish. WC is no longer a G1 horse, MB never has been and Big Zeb clearly had a bad off day, for whatever reason.
I suspect Twist Magic didn’t need to emulate the 160 he’s managed on several occasions including when winning another weak renewal of the Tingle Creek.
Well Chief had his day at Cheltenham
Twist Magic had his day todayI doubt there will be others in ‘true’ G1 chases
Hmm, that was a confoosing race.
Personally, I think Twist has no chance in a Champion Chase. What has he done in that race before?
Sure he jumped well and nothing got into it, but for me, it was more a case of the others running way below their best.
What was up with Big Zeb?
Well Chief just seemed to labour.
No doubt if MM turns up fit and well at Chelters he can go in again (though I have a sneaky for WC running close come March).
MM 7/4 – value?
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Hopefully, PN will get a run into him before the festival.
If I’d bust a rib jumping a fence (assuming that’s how he did it) I’d be very careful next time I raced.
7/4 for a horse with a nominal 10lb in hand of the rest wouldn’t be a daft bet though.- Total Posts 17716
Wouldn’t be backing Twist Magic for anything on the strength of that run.
Given a soft lead in a slowly run race (almost 2 seconds slower than earlier novice chase), his suspect stamina was never likely to be tested, and he’ll be lucky to find another race as soft all season.
Well Chief never jumped a fence, – maybe it was the soft ground (though times suggest it was on the good side of soft), or maybe it was his dodgy leg, but certainly no sign of his usual slick and accurate jumping.If ever there was a sound candidate to be affected by the mysterious ‘bounce’ , or at least one unlikely to be over the exertions of his last race, it would have been Well Chief today. A career plagued by problems since his ’05 annus mirabilis and just the two runs (when fresh) since April ’07 coming into the race today as a near-11yo
With the glaring exception of the Racing Post, most thought WC’s Connaught Chase win weak form and that appraisal can only have been strengthened by his and Mahogany Blaze’s run today.
Agree that backing Twist Magic in the future based on today’s visual evidence would be folly. Walsh gave him a sensible ride given the likely pre-race pace considerations and the horse enjoyed the experience. Happy horses jumping well granted a soft lead tend to look impressive and ‘fast’ but in all likelihood the pace was only steadyish which helped this suspect stayer see out the hill well.
It’s not difficult to pick holes in the opposition. FPDP is not a horse whose attitude I warm too, is not a particularly good fencer and is now looking exposed at 150ish. WC is no longer a G1 horse, MB never has been and Big Zeb clearly had a bad off day, for whatever reason.
I suspect Twist Magic didn’t need to emulate the 160 he’s managed on several occasions including when winning another weak renewal of the Tingle Creek.
Well Chief had his day at Cheltenham
Twist Magic had his day todayI doubt there will be others in ‘true’ G1 chases
I don’t think it’s a case of the bounce but a case of having him fit at certain times of the year. He was fit for this last year and this year he wasn’t fit at Cheltenham for the past 2 years and wasn’t trying a leg in either race, simply because he doesn’t get the trip and it’s an ideal chance to give him a run before heading for Aintree or leapordstown. PN no doubt will follow the same pattern this year and TM will have his usual day out for a look at the people at Chelters
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Wouldn’t be backing Twist Magic for anything on the strength of that run.
Given a soft lead in a slowly run race (almost 2 seconds slower than earlier novice chase), his suspect stamina was never likely to be tested, and he’ll be lucky to find another race as soft all season.
Well Chief never jumped a fence, – maybe it was the soft ground (though times suggest it was on the good side of soft), or maybe it was his dodgy leg, but certainly no sign of his usual slick and accurate jumping.If ever there was a sound candidate to be affected by the mysterious ‘bounce’ , or at least one unlikely to be over the exertions of his last race, it would have been Well Chief today. A career plagued by problems since his ’05 annus mirabilis and just the two runs (when fresh) since April ’07 coming into the race today as a near-11yo
With the glaring exception of the Racing Post, most thought WC’s Connaught Chase win weak form and that appraisal can only have been strengthened by his and Mahogany Blaze’s run today.
Agree that backing Twist Magic in the future based on today’s visual evidence would be folly. Walsh gave him a sensible ride given the likely pre-race pace considerations and the horse enjoyed the experience. Happy horses jumping well granted a soft lead tend to look impressive and ‘fast’ but in all likelihood the pace was only steadyish which helped this suspect stayer see out the hill well.
It’s not difficult to pick holes in the opposition. FPDP is not a horse whose attitude I warm too, is not a particularly good fencer and is now looking exposed at 150ish. WC is no longer a G1 horse, MB never has been and Big Zeb clearly had a bad off day, for whatever reason.
I suspect Twist Magic didn’t need to emulate the 160 he’s managed on several occasions including when winning another weak renewal of the Tingle Creek.
Well Chief had his day at Cheltenham
Twist Magic had his day todayI doubt there will be others in ‘true’ G1 chases
I don’t think it’s a case of the bounce but a case of having him fit at certain times of the year. He was fit for this last year and this year he wasn’t fit at Cheltenham for the past 2 years and wasn’t trying a leg in either race, simply because he doesn’t get the trip and it’s an ideal chance to give him a run before heading for Aintree or leapordstown. PN no doubt will follow the same pattern this year and TM will have his usual day out for a look at the people at Chelters
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