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- October 13, 2024 at 20:03 #1709808
Economics 6-1. To follow up after his Irish Champion Stakes win.
October 17, 2024 at 11:35 #1710029backed the French horse happy enough with stall 1 as he has to be dropped in any way, coming from a wider draw might have made it more off a headache
Looking forward to it
October 17, 2024 at 11:43 #1710030Royal Rhyme E/W 50/1
October 17, 2024 at 19:11 #1710044Continuous 66-1 e/w.
Don’t think he’s going to be sacrificed as a pacemaker for Los Angeles and he’ll be staying on when others have cried enough. They wouldn’t have booked Soumillon if he were just to set the pace.
Besides, Ballydoyle’s second strings (or worse) have been known to pop up at long odds on more than one occasion.
October 17, 2024 at 21:16 #1710054Calandagan
VF x
October 18, 2024 at 01:01 #1710072Sea The Fire – 66/1 EW (Paddy Power)
Just taken
That price must surely halve.
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...October 18, 2024 at 01:23 #1710074G, I’m going to join you with Continuous. Not a strong fancy, but I’ll give him a try, as I agree that he looks just a bit too big here
Continuous 66’s EW
October 18, 2024 at 10:41 #1710097Kings Gambit 20/1 Each Way William Hill
If you backed the first two in the market Calandagan and Economics to win the same amount you would be getting odds of around 1 to 3. Calandagan has good form on soft ground but has achieved his best rating on good to firm. He was been on the go since mid March and is the most likely winner should he show his most recent form. Economics has shown his best form on good ground and was beaten on the two occasions he encountered soft ground. His form in beating Jayarebe 2 lengths at Deauville does not seem much better than Kings Gambit’s unlucky in running 3/4 defeat by the same horse at Royal Ascot. Los Angeles looks fully exposed. His half length defeat of Kings Gambit was likely down to the race tactics of the Aiden Obrien stable and the mile and a half not the best trip for KG. Who has the most scope for improvement it’s got to be Kings Gambit at 3 times the odds here. The half length defeat of Kings Gambit at York to Alflaila can be attributed to the very slow early pace resulting in a time 12 seconds below standard. I see Kings Gambit very much in the same light as I saw Blue Stocking last season, he is the most unexposed horse in the race, we have yet to see the best of him and whatever he does here I can see him having a fruitful season as a 4 year old.
October 18, 2024 at 11:14 #1710101You may have question marks on others Sea Pigeon on account of the ground, but King’s Gambit has never won on soft. All his best form is on fast ground and he has it to find on the ratings too as he never won a group race. It is Ascot at the end of a long season though so it’s not impossible I suppose.
October 18, 2024 at 12:17 #1710104Los Angeles handled the soft going In France last year and must be the ew bet to nothing. You never know they will handle it till they try it and la will be running on strongly if it’s heavy.
October 18, 2024 at 15:30 #1710119See The Fire now trading around 22/1.
Can’t believe I got 66/1 from Paddy Power last night….now all she has to do is run her best race.
Come on See The Fire 🔥Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...October 18, 2024 at 15:56 #1710122Well done Jac grabbing that 66/1, that’s definitely what Ginger would
call good Value. I Went for Continuous in the Ark. I think he was a little
bit unlucky. So I’m joining G and Bobby and I’ve just grabbed the 66s at
William Hill, I’m amazed he’s still available at that priceOctober 18, 2024 at 16:16 #1710126Well done that price Jac, I on it but 28s
Calandagan
Sea The FireVF x
October 18, 2024 at 18:21 #1710146Thanks Graham and vf x
Now all she has to do is win it, I hope she puts in a grand finish as she’s more than likely to go to stud next year.Continuous is the shrewd bet Graham and wish you, Glad and VtC best of luck with him.

Great days racing ahead , anythings possible.😀 Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...October 19, 2024 at 01:56 #1710202I’ve taken average odds of 54.72 See The Fire (win only) Jac. Not a third of the price I got when her mum won the International.
Has to prove she acts on the softer ground, but am convinced she’s crying out for a greater test of stamina than she’s faced. Hope she stays in training as Arabian Queen improved at four. Whatever happens today I want to see her at 10f on a firmer surface.
Have saved on Calandagan 2.76. Looked as though he needed soft in the Spring and then put up improved performances on firmer. So ground is a bit iffy (why he’s only a saver for me). But he’s proven at 12f so a stamina test at the trip is good for him. Rated by Timeform as a pound behind City Of Troy. Economics is not sure to be suited by the ground or test of stamina. Want to oppose him at the price. Wouldn’t surprise me if they take him out.
My other two main bets are Los Angeles @ average 10.56 just before the price plummeted… And another French hope, Iresine @ average 17.11.
Los Angeles was a staying on 4th in the Irish Champion and that is not likely to be anywhere near the stamina test of this race. Not sure if LA will make the running this time. Last year’s St Leger winner has been disappointing this term. imo Most likely a Continuous sacrifice. One of the two will need to go on because there is no other pace and both are stayers.
Iresine doesn’t win good group 1’s but has been good enough when the best horse/s fail to perform and easy to see both favs under-performing. Iresine loves very soft 10 furlongs and is in form.
I too am looking forward to seeing Kings Gambit next year for the reasons Sea Pigeon expressed. Convinced he’s a Group 1 winner in the making. Maybe not this one. The way he handles good-firm must be a chance he won’t be at his best on very soft… And although it may look as if he was not far behind LA at York, the winner was giving him weight. That said, it won’t take much of a drift for me to get involved.Value Is EverythingOctober 19, 2024 at 04:11 #1710205“Economics is not sure to be suited by the ground or test of stamina. Want to oppose him at the price. Wouldn’t surprise me if they take him out.”
Haggas been saying he runs whatever the weather does.
October 19, 2024 at 11:01 #1710254The front two are very short but Los Angeles at 8s seems good to me.
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