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- January 14, 2018 at 12:25 #1337441
nwalton, There’s a guy on twitter, Paul Fairhead, who’s helped a number of people in your situation get their cash quickly. I can get you his email address if you like?
January 14, 2018 at 12:28 #1337442that would be great
many thanks for your help
January 14, 2018 at 17:32 #1337474January 14, 2018 at 19:00 #1337479cheers joe
January 14, 2018 at 22:18 #1337494Cause Of Causes did indeed have three stars and the blurb
“Latest win in chase at Cheltenham in March. Creditable second of 40 in handicap chase (16/1) at Aintree (34.3f, good to soft). Off 9 months. Significantly down in trip.”
In the end he was a non-runner, but it seems unlikely he would be very effective at the trip today.
Why the hell was Acapella Bourgeois odds on? This trip was way short for him as well and he has generally disappointed since the 32 length romp in the mud that got several punters into such a frenzy that they were able to hold off on the Viagra tablets until the horse went to Cheltenham and trailed in 61 lengths behind Might Bite. The disappointment was so severe that punters had to take all the saved up Viagra in a dose that people from Glasgow would refer to as “A pure wannie” (All at once) to even get a semi.
9/10 Fav looked suicidal odds and he ran like a box of smashed crabs, pulled up.
He was available at 7/2 when I first looked at the early AP betting and I wasn’t interested in that at all. Beaten as 4/7 Fav last time, that race has worked out awfully since and for a horse with his best form over 3M on gutters to be odds on in a handicap at 2m 1F, where he was probably poorly handicapped on overall form, it just shows that seeing the word “Mullins” ensures that some people will back any old rubbish at silly odds.
No wonder Gingertipster keeps advising on the importance of value.

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
January 15, 2018 at 06:29 #1337510Would strongly advise avoiding Fairhead at all costs – by many accounts out of his depth in these disputes and something of a self-publicist. Would suggest the Twitter user @BettingScams as much more capable.
January 15, 2018 at 09:43 #1337514LS3/joe
thanks
January 15, 2018 at 11:01 #1337523Oh I see.
Is “three stars” that good then in ATR’s ratings?
eg Picking a handicap at random: I see in the 1:45 Ayr today; in a seven horse race there’s one 5 star, two 4 stars and three 3 stars with just one 2 stars.
I wouldn’t have given Cause Of Causes 3 stars myself; but it is only one man’s opinion – not “Timeform”‘s as such… Not as though the Timeform Verdict ever gave him as one of their 1-2-3 anyway; and “significantly down in trip” enough to put anyone off I would’ve thought… How many people would’ve backed him on that? And we are talking a free service here, not Timeform’s subscription information which was even more dismissive, stuff like “presumably having a pipe opener”. Can’t expect a free service to be as informative.
You seem to be judging Timeform on very flimsy evidence, TWM.
Value Is EverythingJanuary 15, 2018 at 16:57 #1337564Timeform are like many of these tipping services who give a rating from 1 to 5 for every runner.
In a big field they might give a five star, then half dozen four stars, six three stars and some twos and ones. I reckon the thinking is that they can say they had the winner rated four stars and a good chance.
If you have ever seen Peter Scudamore’s Grand National preview you will note that he gives a five star rating before about a dozen with four stars and twenty with three stars. He’s usually got 80% of the field with three stars or better.
I just pick three runners for the Grand National myself and don’t feel the need for the “Oh, I was looking at that one” after the race.
Sometimes I criticise Timeform but it’s not easy assessing every runner, in every race, and occasionally short cut, nominal, ratings must be be given without too much in-depth analysis. Time is in short supply to Form an accurate rating for so many runners.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
January 15, 2018 at 17:09 #1337566If you can access a flat bed scanner, it should be pretty straight-forward to convert a scan to a PDF file. A program like Adobe Acrobat will have the tools to convert, or even scan the document as a PDF file.
Adobe Acrobat used to be free to download from the internet, I recommend a well known site for this in order to be secure.
If you have a friend with a scanner they could convert to a PDF file and you could save it to a memory stick and transfer to your own computer. A stick with modest memory would suffice and would be cheap to buy. A 1GB USB stick would be more than plenty and would cost no more than £4. If I had the bank statement here I could probably have it done and dusted in five minutes.
I wouldn’t let them away with that amount and there are online guides to converting scans into PDF files.
Good luck.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
January 15, 2018 at 17:21 #1337568nwalton, can you still bet with them? Try depositing £10.
January 15, 2018 at 18:06 #1337573To be fair, Steve; the stars aren’t really a “Timeform” thing, presumably just something they’ve been asked to do as a service for ATR. I’ve seen the 1-2-3 before on Betfair etc but never in over thirty years of subscription have I come come across Timeform Stars for all runners (first time I’ve been on ATR’s site). You don’t see it on the proper Timeform site.
Value Is EverythingJanuary 15, 2018 at 21:22 #1337602I was only referring to the Timeform selection process on ATR. I’ve never paid a penny piece for the actual Timeform site/services.
The last time I bought the Racing Post was for the special Red Rum tribute edition. Thrifty punter me. The Racing Post costs the equivalent of 6 bets for me

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
January 15, 2018 at 22:38 #1337610thanks steve
no yates I had an email after yesterdays ‘chat’ which stated my account was now suspended,to carry out routine checks which is laughable really as I closed it six years ago.
They have said they will be looking into my withdrawal request £177.28 and we let me know shortly(lol seven years on in feb)
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