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According to the information in fromt of me Simple Jim has run twenty-one times in just under eleven months. Surely it is time his connections gave him a well deserved rest?
He has had four wins during that period so it is not as if this gelding is not playing his part.
Probably gives all indication that he loves his racing. Some do don’t they?
Can’t be feeling the rigours too much if he goes in as frequently as that either.
Didn’t do Chaplins Club any harm.
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Chaplins Club wasn´t a Great Racehorse, by anybody´s stretch of imagination. All his wins came in handicap classes, and in low classes all the same, but it was his sheer toughness that made this resilient sprinter a huge public favorite. Neither bred in gold (nor silver) or wrapped in cotton wool, Chapins Club, in training with David Chapman for Peter Savill, raced a cool 160 times. Out of that he managed 24 wins, but needed only two seasons to score 18 of them, as he achieved the rare feat of winning 9 handicap races in one season not once, but twice! For good measure, he ran up 7 of the 9 wins in the second sequence in 17 days; thats how tough old Chaplins Club was. It was a satisfying and richly deserved honour that Chapins Club was voted in the Top 100 " Greatest Racehorses " in the recent Racing Post poll. Racehorses simply do not come much harder than him.Tom,
Our syndicate horse, Goldan Jess, competed eighteen times in 2008 and thirteen times in six months this year. His form figures are as follows:
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RUNS: 13
WINS: 1
PLCD: 6He has been well campaigned under both codes, with placed efforts on the flat achieved between one mile-four and two miles. He was also placed over hurdles between two miles and two miles-four, with a victory over two miles-six.
Arguably, his best effort came when tenth of twenty-four (beaten 9L) in a competitive Class 3 at Cheltenham on unsuitable ground – this was achieved on his thirteenth and final start (after a 230 mile trip).
Do you think he’s been over-raced, taking into consideration just how well he’s held his form this year? His best form actually came towards the end of the year.
Jess loves racing and his form figures are testament to this. He’s no superstar but, simply put, he loves running and jumping – that is what makes him happy.
To his disgust, he’s actually on holiday at the moment!
Tom
My paddock comments for Simple Jim yesterday were ‘looked well, on toes’, so there was no physical suggestion that being run often is doing him any harm. In fact if anything it seems that the exact opposite is the case. his performance yesterday, not beaten too far and in contetnion to the last, suggest that he’s holding his form.
Some horses need a rest, some thrive on regular action and applying a blinkered set of ‘rules’ to one horse achieves very little, Other than to continue grinding an axe which must surely be worn down to nothing by now?
Rob
For heaven’s sake, you’re all doing it again.
The TOM (Totally Obnoxious Man) puts up a contentious post and instead of just ignoring it and letting it drop off the first page, you all rush to construct arguments defending racing against his pathetic attacks.
You are absolutely and 100% playing into his hands and giving him exactly what he wants.
Don’t reply, don’t even open his threads – eventually he’ll get the message.
AP
Clearly Tom has an anti racing agenda , and I must ask why we allow him to be his demonic self on a racing forum
Please folks in the absence of the moderators taking the sensible approach and banning this person , can we just ignore him
thanks
Ricky
ps Tom you could take your own advice and give us a rest
If he was banned he could then tell people that he was banned from a respected horse racing forum for trying to put a case forward against cruelty in racing. If no one replies constructively to his comments, people browsing the forum will think that none of us care. I would ask Tom to come clean publicly about who he is and give a clear idea of what he actually wants [ banning of all sport involving horses?]. I have always understood that nothing is worth the paper that it is written on if it is done anonymously.
I have been going racing on a regular basis since 1960. betting successfully since that date till 1990.
Over the years I have noticed the standard of those who go racing has dropped alarmingly. Unsavory incidents are seen regularly at race meetings that one would not see in the past.
It looks like this board is mirroring the race crowds as I put an innocent statement at the start of this thread and yet look at the nasty personal attacks from ‘apracing’.
Behave Sir,
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Over the years I have noticed the standard of those who go racing has dropped alarmingly. Unsavory incidents are seen regularly at race meetings that one would not see in the past.
Tom I have to agree,
I have been verbally attacked on 3 occasions that resulted in me leavin the racecourse but more worryingly my mother was verbally abused by group of drunken lads who I reported to the racecourse but nothing happened.
I have to say the temptation to ban Tom has been great but, for reasons put forward by Moehat I’ve not taken the plunge. I have warned Tom however that if he continues to start pointless threads with no purpose other than to agitate he’ll be booted.
This is another one Tom – you’re on your last legs pal (unlike Simple Jim, who appears to be thriving).
Agree very much with moehat above.
I think Tom, whatever his agenda if there is one, has every right to ask such questions on a forum such as this and racing, if confident enough in what it has to offer, can withstand such antagonistic intrusions, therefore going on the defensive is unnecessary in my view. There is room for all voices on a forum such as this I think, although ultimately it is not for us to decide.
Further, and I feel potentially quite damaging, are the not infrequent retorts from either National Hunt only followers making disparaging remarks about the flat, or vice versa.
One even finds this amongst racing professionals who claim no interest in, and a little disdain for, the other code, resulting in seemingly two sports within a sport, running parallel, yet for so many, n’er the twain shall meet, while the rest of us try and bridge the gap.Quite a few people on this forum seem to propagate this antipathy to the other, yet no one ever gangs up on them, so it seems a touch unfair to do so here, in my opinion.
I thought this was a thread about Tom for a minute.
Sad news that Tom is still posting with his pre-conceived agenda – to such an extent that he fails to answer any question relating to the activities of his cronies.
Margaret, Flat and Jumps are two completely different sports – indisputable fact, imo – and I reserve the right to slate the former for the visually drab pile of mince that it is, as and when the need arises.
I fail to see how adoption of this position is “potentially damaging” when the Flat – by dint of its surly jockeys, secretive trainers, and utterly dull product – cannot (and appears to have no desire to) sell itself to a wider public anyway.
In short – Flat: bollocks, Jumps: great. The prosecution rests.
Ithangyew.
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