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- December 21, 2014 at 12:15 #499135
Couldn’t get on here yesterday morning but anyone who noticed the Navan article in the features section will probably know I backe both Harvey Logan and Gilgamboa yesterday. I also backed Fine Article at Naas on Saturday but yesterday’s winners ensured a profitable weekend, even if that’s not reflected on here. It’s frustrating because I didn’t have Blaklion up on here either and the season has started quite well for me.
Very good novice chase at Navan but I wondered what you made of Kauto Grand Mogol at Limerick? Probably wasn’t much of a race and he isn’t the biggest but I don’t think I have seen many debutants jump quite so well.
The novice chase was good alright, what did you think of Empire Of Dirt’s run?
Kauto Grand Mogol was very good. Brian O’Connell took the bull by the horns and those tactics seemed to suit. He was a close third to Martello Tower on a bumper, a horse I rate very highly. It will be interesting to see what way they go with KGM now, he could be worth trying in a graded novice hurdle some where, although as you say the form doesn’t look up to much.
I know it was a step up in class for Kauto Grand Mogol last time but for me he was always struggling. On that evidence would have been looking to oppose him today but unfortunately the opposition is hardly what you would call reliable.
December 21, 2014 at 14:20 #499146Have taken 11/8 on KGM Stilvi, be disappointing if he can’t win this. Wrath Of Titans won’t have many better chances to win than today and he’s my only other bet.
December 21, 2014 at 18:50 #499178Have taken 11/8 on KGM Stilvi, be disappointing if he can’t win this. Wrath Of Titans won’t have many better chances to win than today and he’s my only other bet.
Two easy winners today and little for me to worry about at any stage in either race. Wrath Of Titans has ran in some decent maiden hurdles but it was nice to see him go and put the race to bed when asked today. Cheekpieces may have helped in that regard. Kauto Grand Mogol was highly impressive but didn’t have much to beat.
December 21, 2014 at 20:41 #499181Kauto Grand Mogol very easy winner. Trainer apparently struggling to explain previous run. Perhaps it came too quickly?
What have you made of the spate Mullins bumper winners? I know he has done it twice but visually I have preferred the other three to Bordini.
December 22, 2014 at 20:26 #499277Kauto Grand Mogol very easy winner. Trainer apparently struggling to explain previous run. Perhaps it came too quickly?
What have you made of the spate Mullins bumper winners? I know he has done it twice but visually I have preferred the other three to Bordini.
It’s a strange one, definitely didn’t look himself behind Free Expression for whatever reason. That has been his only run left handed, not suggesting that’s definitely the reason for the below par effort, but you never know.
Thought Pylonthepressure’s bumper was probably the weakest, but he did it well. I liked Stone Hard a lot, it was a better race and he’s the type to improve for a step up in trip. He accounted for Rock N Rhythm in better style than Livelovelaugh. I think Bordini has been good, when Attribution came to him I thought he was in trouble but he pulled away again in the closing stages. I think he deserves to be favourite for the Cheltenham bumper at this stage. That run from Attribution gives me hope that Bellshill can win his winners’ bumper and book a ticket to Cheltenham.
I doubt Stone Hard will go to Cheltenham but he’d be mine if I was allowed to have one of them

Alvisio Ville is entered in maiden hurdles at Leopardstown, keep an eye out for him, have heard good things.
December 23, 2014 at 17:29 #499330Sometimes we look for ‘value’ alternatives to short priced favourites who are actually overpriced. The Faugheen/Vautour double pays 10/11. Vautour is 1/3 to beat Clarcam, who he beat by an eased down eight lengths last time out (at odds of 2/11) on his first run of the season. Clarcam had the benefit of the run and is now a pound worse off with Vautour. Barring a fall or an act of God Vautour will win. Faugheen is Faugheen and he will do what he always does.
10/11… Merry Christmas ya filthy animals.
December 25, 2014 at 19:03 #499445Alvisio Ville is entered in maiden hurdles at Leopardstown, keep an eye out for him, have heard good things.
It seems the bookmakers have as well. Did you expect to be odds on? I couldn’t see that much positive in his one run – the winner hasn’t won since.
Ordinary World travelled like a winner first time and you would think even with a little progression he should give him a race.
Shame Gilgamboa is being upped in trip, presumably to avoid Vautour. I have always thought Adriana Des Mottes would make a nice chaser but she might not quite have the class for this, particularly with the handicap in the saddle.
December 25, 2014 at 21:43 #499450Alvisio Ville is entered in maiden hurdles at Leopardstown, keep an eye out for him, have heard good things.
It seems the bookmakers have as well. Did you expect to be odds on? I couldn’t see that much positive in his one run – the winner hasn’t won since.
Ordinary World travelled like a winner first time and you would think even with a little progression he should give him a race.
Shame Gilgamboa is being upped in trip, presumably to avoid Vautour. I have always thought Adriana Des Mottes would make a nice chaser but she might not quite have the class for this, particularly with the handicap in the saddle.
I took 11/10 on Alvisio Ville, if what I’ve heard is right he’ll be well backed tomorrow. Ordinary World and Aengus look decent animals but it’s hoped Grade 1 races will be on the agenda in the future for the Mullins horse apparently. I don’t need him to be a Grade 1 horse, just good enough to win tomorrow will do me. I see he’s been punted for the Supreme as well, I haven’t got involved there because plenty of what you hear never comes to fruition, and I don’t want to get stung on two fronts.
I’d prefer Gilgamboa at two miles but his class could see him through. Wounded Warrior is a horse I like but he wants further imo. Adriana Des Mottes getting lots of weight and ran a cracker last time. I’d be hoping Gilgamboa’s class will see him through.
December 25, 2014 at 23:56 #499469Sometimes we look for ‘value’ alternatives to short priced favourites who are actually overpriced. The Faugheen/Vautour double pays 10/11. Vautour is 1/3 to beat Clarcam, who he beat by an eased down eight lengths last time out (at odds of 2/11) on his first run of the season. Clarcam had the benefit of the run and is now a pound worse off with Vautour. Barring a fall or an act of God Vautour will win. Faugheen is Faugheen and he will do what he always does.
10/11… Merry Christmas ya filthy animals.
I’m in on a treble with the first leg already won with Lewis beating his opponent on the 180’s at 4/11 the other day.
I see Hills are 15/8 the Machine to win by 4+ lengths. I think if he does that against this field at Kempton he should be odds on for the Champion.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
December 26, 2014 at 16:42 #499517Alvisio Ville is entered in maiden hurdles at Leopardstown, keep an eye out for him, have heard good things.
It seems the bookmakers have as well. Did you expect to be odds on? I couldn’t see that much positive in his one run – the winner hasn’t won since.
Ordinary World travelled like a winner first time and you would think even with a little progression he should give him a race.
Shame Gilgamboa is being upped in trip, presumably to avoid Vautour. I have always thought Adriana Des Mottes would make a nice chaser but she might not quite have the class for this, particularly with the handicap in the saddle.
I took 11/10 on Alvisio Ville, if what I’ve heard is right he’ll be well backed tomorrow. Ordinary World and Aengus look decent animals but it’s hoped Grade 1 races will be on the agenda in the future for the Mullins horse apparently. I don’t need him to be a Grade 1 horse, just good enough to win tomorrow will do me. I see he’s been punted for the Supreme as well, I haven’t got involved there because plenty of what you hear never comes to fruition, and I don’t want to get stung on two fronts.
I’d prefer Gilgamboa at two miles but his class could see him through. Wounded Warrior is a horse I like but he wants further imo. Adriana Des Mottes getting lots of weight and ran a cracker last time. I’d be hoping Gilgamboa’s class will see him through.
Alvisio Ville certainly looks the part and won comfortably although I suspect Ordinary World hasn’t come close to matching his debut run. The ground might well have been a factor. Looking ahead the winner is now pretty short for the Supreme but with AP taking over I would be very cautious.
I think we pretty much got the Limerick race spot on.
December 27, 2014 at 10:38 #499612Tommy what your thoughts on lexus chase i am on BOSTON BOB at 6/1
And also 3m hurdle race i think AT FISHERS CROSS 4/1 should win this looks a easy grade one for him.I like Brair hill but see more as a chasing prospect.There are no horses like Annie Power or
More of that reason i think he win it.December 27, 2014 at 13:07 #499653Alvisio Ville certainly looks the part and won comfortably although I suspect Ordinary World hasn’t come close to matching his debut run. The ground might well have been a factor. Looking ahead the winner is now pretty short for the Supreme but with AP taking over I would be very cautious.
I think we pretty much got the Limerick race spot on.
Yeah the Limerick race worked out as we suspected. Don’t really understand Wounded Warrior running there to be honest.
Alvisio Ville is top price 14/1 for the Supreme. That wouldn’t tempt me at the moment. I was just happy that he got the job done yesterday, covered a big loss on the Faugheen Vautour double.
December 27, 2014 at 13:15 #499655Tommy what your thoughts on lexus chase i am on BOSTON BOB at 6/1
And also 3m hurdle race i think AT FISHERS CROSS 4/1 should win this looks a easy grade one for him.I like Brair hill but see more as a chasing prospect.There are no horses like Annie Power or
More of that reason i think he win it.I’m on Boston Bob at 7/1 Darren, think he has a massive chance. He was very badly hampered last time and still finished ahead of Lord Windermere.
I wouldn’t touch At Fishers Cross with a ten foot poll though, not one to trust in my view.
December 27, 2014 at 21:13 #499710I’m not keen on At Fisher’s Cross either. I think he’s a dodgy favourite for tomorrow’s race.
Briar Hill opened at 9/4 for this and it seems unbelievable that he is 5/1 now. Must have lost a leg surely?
For me he’s got more scope and looks less complicated than At Fisher’s Cross, I just can’t fathom why he’s such a big price now.
Bobs Worth looks a more solid proposition than Boston Bob and I feel Road To Riches might be the beneficiary if the former Gold Cup winner isn’t near the top of his game.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
December 27, 2014 at 21:27 #499713I’m not keen on At Fisher’s Cross either. I think he’s a dodgy favourite for tomorrow’s race.
Briar Hill opened at 9/4 for this and it seems unbelievable that he is 5/1 now. Must have lost a leg surely?
For me he’s got more scope and looks less complicated than At Fisher’s Cross, I just can’t fathom why he’s such a big price now.
Bobs Worth looks a more solid proposition than Boston Bob and I feel Road To Riches might be the beneficiary if the former Gold Cup winner isn’t near the top of his game.
On Briar Hill, the drift has been alarming. He has seemingly be overlooked by Ruby Walsh and Paul Townend. He’s either a) not the horse he was, b) in dire need of the run, c) not doing a tap at home or d) David Cassey’s Christmas present. Or a combination.
I’m going racing tomorrow and want to have a look at him before deciding to get involved. He could be quite fresh having his first run for a long time and over three miles that could find him out. However, I think he’s head and shoulders above these at his best and could be worth taking a chance on.
I’ve backed Boston Bob but the rain won’t have helped his chances. That being said I still expect a decent run for my money. I don’t think the rain will have aided Road To Riches either, I can see him getting very coming up the Leopardstown hill. Bobs Worth won’t have encountered ground this soft before but handled testing conditions very well when winning the Gold Cup so you’d be hopeful he’ll be alright. Have to say it was a real highlight last year when Barry Geraghty brought him back past the stands after winning this and I’d be hoping he’ll do the same if he wins tomorrow. Was a nice touch and the crowd appreciated.
December 28, 2014 at 13:03 #499760Briar Hill surely can’t win this. He’s a whopping 8/1 this morning.
There has to be something amiss and it’s as alarming a drift as I have seen in a race of this grade, particularly given the powerful stable involved.
Enjoy the day and bag a few winners.

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
December 28, 2014 at 14:26 #499766I backed both Lieutenant Colonel and Jetson today. Finding it hard to believe the subsequent disparity between the two for the World Hurdle. Jetson is very likely to get his preferred ground and without the soft ground Lieutenant Colonel might not even travel. The 25/1 looks an insult.
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