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Well done.
I was impressed particularly with the way he found that little bit extra on the run in despite having run freely. Had a little bit on for both the Jewson and RSA. At this stage I think they will keep him to 2m4f but he is capable of stepping up as per his breeding. Looked as if going left-handed should help.
Short priced double goes in as well! Didn’t think the bumper winner was that impressive.
The least said about mine the better. I assume even the Irish stewards will be calling in Noel Meade for an explanation. Patrick Mullins gets a lot of stick but I would take him over Carberry every day of the week.
Thanks Stilvi. Are you referring to the bumper horse? Was first beaten, you’d think something amiss as he was well touted.
For a moment I thought Black Hercules was going to power away for an easy win but he only maintained his lead. Did it well enough I thought, although he wasn’t as impressive as Shaneshill or Royal Caviar in winning recently.
Davy Russell gave The Game Changer a brilliant ride imo. Andrew ‘hit the front two out’ Lynch produced him far too early last time out but I couldn’t have any such complaints today.
I was impressed with Bright New Dawn too. He was giving Dogora 12 lbs and looked like he was holding him well. At times he jumped a bit to his left so a left handed track might see him improve too. He jumped well on the whole though. If he’s still 20/1 with Boyles tomorrow for the RSA I’ll add him to Ballycasey.
Did you see Rathvinden? Another nice novice hurdler for Team Closutton.
Bit slow to get back as I couldn’t log on yesterday.
Yes, I was referring to Sucker Punch – appropriate name! I get very frustrated listening to the praise lauded on Carberry. Where bumpers are concerned she is very one dimensional and I don’t think she wins on too many that other decent amateurs wouldn’t boot home. Even if the horse was okay why would you just concede 7-8 lengths to a 1/2 shot travelling on the bridle? It is not as if in the long term the Meade horses benefit from these hold up rides compared to the ‘keep it simple’ Mullins approach.
I think I need to see Rathvinden again before giving a proper assessment. In running I didn’t think he was travelling or jumping that well but in the end he has run out a very easy winner. He has no more than an okay pedigree and as far as I could see the best of the family were at their best over shorter trips. From a distance he doesn’t fill the eye like a Bright New Dawn and he appears to have a quick, scratchy action. Perhaps a quicker surface will suit best.
On the subject of Bright New Dawn I am hoping they don’t bottom him on deep Winter ground. I know he didn’t win by far but he impressed me more than any other novice this season.
Given luck in running pretty sure there is at least one good race in Home Farm. He is the most interesting contender on Saturday. Hopefully, he will have sufficient pace to be competitive.
Good luck.
Tommy they were talking of a novice who won on debut at weekend he could be next SIMONSIG think it is RATHVINDEN he looks a serious horse.
Any thoughts on past weekend racing i like to see ARVIKA in king george but not be this year.
COLOUR SQUADRON i like at Cheltenham at weekend.
Yes I backed Rathvinden at the weekend Darren, he looks to have a big engine and is another ‘could be anything’ novice hurdler for Mullins. Vautour won a maiden hurdle for the same stable on Saturday and he’s another to follow.
Arvika should have been in the Tingle Creek imo Darren, different bisto to Sire De Grugy. He’s going to Leopardstown now, I’d have some reservations about him going left handed.
I backed Colour Squadron in the Paddy Power but he was a much bigger price then and I don’t think he’s one to trust too much.
No thoughts on the flat Darren which is probably just as well for you
Well done.
I was impressed particularly with the way he found that little bit extra on the run in despite having run freely. Had a little bit on for both the Jewson and RSA. At this stage I think they will keep him to 2m4f but he is capable of stepping up as per his breeding. Looked as if going left-handed should help.
Short priced double goes in as well! Didn’t think the bumper winner was that impressive.
The least said about mine the better. I assume even the Irish stewards will be calling in Noel Meade for an explanation. Patrick Mullins gets a lot of stick but I would take him over Carberry every day of the week.
Thanks Stilvi. Are you referring to the bumper horse? Was first beaten, you’d think something amiss as he was well touted.
For a moment I thought Black Hercules was going to power away for an easy win but he only maintained his lead. Did it well enough I thought, although he wasn’t as impressive as Shaneshill or Royal Caviar in winning recently.
Davy Russell gave The Game Changer a brilliant ride imo. Andrew ‘hit the front two out’ Lynch produced him far too early last time out but I couldn’t have any such complaints today.
I was impressed with Bright New Dawn too. He was giving Dogora 12 lbs and looked like he was holding him well. At times he jumped a bit to his left so a left handed track might see him improve too. He jumped well on the whole though. If he’s still 20/1 with Boyles tomorrow for the RSA I’ll add him to Ballycasey.
Did you see Rathvinden? Another nice novice hurdler for Team Closutton.
Bit slow to get back as I couldn’t log on yesterday.
Yes, I was referring to Sucker Punch – appropriate name! I get very frustrated listening to the praise lauded on Carberry. Where bumpers are concerned she is very one dimensional and I don’t think she wins on too many that other decent amateurs wouldn’t boot home. Even if the horse was okay why would you just concede 7-8 lengths to a 1/2 shot travelling on the bridle? It is not as if in the long term the Meade horses benefit from these hold up rides compared to the ‘keep it simple’ Mullins approach.
I think I need to see Rathvinden again before giving a proper assessment. In running I didn’t think he was travelling or jumping that well but in the end he has run out a very easy winner. He has no more than an okay pedigree and as far as I could see the best of the family were at their best over shorter trips. From a distance he doesn’t fill the eye like a Bright New Dawn and he appears to have a quick, scratchy action. Perhaps a quicker surface will suit best.
On the subject of Bright New Dawn I am hoping they don’t bottom him on deep Winter ground. I know he didn’t win by far but he impressed me more than any other novice this season.
Given luck in running pretty sure there is at least one good race in Home Farm. He is the most interesting contender on Saturday. Hopefully, he will have sufficient pace to be competitive.
Good luck.
I agree with you about Carberry Stilvi, much prefer Mullins in a bumper. He’s very good tactically and is in the right place more often than not, keeps things simple as you say.
To be honest I’m no expert on horses’ actions etc., so I appreciate the insight. Nothing many horses catch the eye like Bright New Dawn, even I knew I was looking at a gorgeous animal when I saw him run second to Champagne Fever at Leopardstown. I marked him as a horse for the future that day as he has a great attitude and is built for chasing. Haven’t backed him for the RSA as of yet but I shall do so tomorrow I think.
Was going to back Home Farm yesterday when 12/1 was available but had to settle for 10s today. He was well fancied for the Irish National and ran a good race in third. He previously beat White Star Line at Fairyhouse, admittedly White Star Line was a huge eye catcher that day. His comeback run was nice and given his connections it wouldn’t surprise if he had a few pounds up his sleeve!
I too took a long look at Home Farm and very nearly went in but the Irish have a bad record in the race do I let it go!! Will probably regret it so good luck
Time to reassess the novice chasers. I’m happy with all of those I listed at the beginning of this thread who have gone chasing, with the exception of
Some Tikket
. There are races to be won with him but I’m not sure they’re going to be Grade 1’s. Well, he was the dark horse of the lot, a bit too dark perhaps.
Arkle
The two leading Irish candidates for this race look like being
Champagne Fever
and
Defy Logic
. I like Willie Mullins for the four novice chases and Champagne Fever has a favourites chance in this. He’s always looked a chaser and I see no reason why he won’t be as effective over the larger obstacles. I do however believe that there is far more value in Defy Logic at 25/1. Arkle hopes seemed to disappear when Felix Yonger swept past him at Punchestown but I don’t think he’ll have that rival to beat at Cheltenham. He was blowing very hard after that race and it wouldn’t surprise me if there was more to come from him. The Annie Power form is working out well with that one beating Zarkandar Don Cossack winning the Drinmore. Hinterland and Grandouet fought out the finish at Sandown on Saturday, maybe I’m wrong but I wouldn’t be too afriad of them.
Jewson
Felix Yonger
is the kind of good thing Sir Des Champs was
I keep looking down the list of horses on Oddschecker and Taquin De Seuil aside I can’t see a threat. Obviously a long way between now and then but I think Felix should be the same sort of price for this as Champagne Fever is for the Arkle.RSA
Ballycasey, Morning Assembly and Bright New Dawn look the main Irish challengers at this stage. I like the two ‘B’s the most. Ballycasey goes to Limerick next apparently, the race which Sir Des Champs won en route to his Jewson win (was somewhat fortunate with Knockfierna running out). He might get done for speed here but I’d imagine he’ll go to the PJ Moriarty after that. Bright New Dawn jumped like a buck at the weekend and goes for the three mile novice Grade 1 at Leopardstown this Christmas. 20/1 for the RSA looks big.
4 Miler
Mullins has a horse entered in a three mile beginners’ chase called
Suntiep
. His bumper needs to be seen to be believed, looking like he was going nowhere with a furlong to run before getting up on the line. He then slogged out a maiden hurdle win over 2m 7f at Navan before beating the useful Bonisland over the same course and distance on his third and most recent start. Like Mullins’ winner of the race this year, Back In Focus, he’ll be 8 years old next March. I think that bit of hardiness does no harm to a horse in a race like this and Suntiep is nothing if not hard. I’ll try get a couple of quotes before he runs.
Very bad luck about Home Farm. I was searching around for some scraps this morning but fortunately they had cut the price again so I didn’t bother.
Bit surprised about your enthusiasm for Defy Logic. Beaten favourite three times in graded company and finds very little off the bridle. I think the hoods on for a reason. Commented about Champagne Fever on Ginger’s thread. I remain to be convinced about him until he wins when he doesn’t get his own way.
Disappointed about Home Farm alright
You’d like to think you’ll get a run when the race less than a week away but there’s always the chance something will go wrong which is the risk taken.I’ve backed
City Slicker
for the Ladbroke with Ladbrokes, who are NRNB, so the risk is taken out of it. If he runs I doubt he’ll be 12/1. I thought he won with plenty in hand at Punchestown and deserves a crack at a big handicap. He has a bit of an awkward head carriage but the ability is definitely there and going right handed seems very important to him.
Ladbroke Handicap Hurdle
City Slicker
€10 e/w @ 12/1 (Ladbrokes, NRNB)Looking at Tramore tomorrow,
Supreme Bailerina
looks something of a good thing for the mares’ maiden hurdle. I usually try avoid backing horses round places like Tramore but she should be head and shoulders above the opposition. If I can get 4/5 I’ll have a score on.
Tommy, many happy returns.
Make sure that you have a few for me buddy.
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Thanks Nathan
It was a heavy weekend, went out with friends in Dublin on Thursday, which rolled into Friday… Then had a Christmas party with my summer employer on Saturday. Went to ground yesterday and only coming around now but I think I’ve turned a corner Back to the horses, and only bet I got up here was Suntiep, unfortunately! He drifted alarmingly and showed none of the fight he previously exhibited, strange… Backed a few over the past few days. Supreme Bailerina was 8/11 when I checked half an hour before the race so left her alone. Was shocked to see she’d drifted to odds against and was stuffed.
In my hungover state I mistook the time of Abyssial’s race on Saturday
but had Sizing Tennessee and Sizing Gold yesterday so a small profit for the weekend.- €47.48
Has there been any reports on Big Shu this season? I know he wants quicker ground but I am beginning to wonder if there is a problem. The 8/1 would be reasonable if all was well.
Ignore the above as he must be okay because he was punted down to 6/1 three days ago. Most likely winner but not interested at the revised price.
Hi Stilvi,
Can’t say I’ve a strong opinion on the race this season, followed Uncle Junior to good effect in these sort of races over the past few years but he could be getting a bit long in the tooth now. I thought Arabella Boy was going to be Enda Bolger’s next Cross Country stalwart but he ended last season with too desperate runs. I think he has the ability but I’d like to see proof of it again before I’d back him.
I’ve backed
City Slicker
for the Ladbroke with Ladbrokes, who are NRNB, so the risk is taken out of it. If he runs I doubt he’ll be 12/1. I thought he won with plenty in hand at Punchestown and deserves a crack at a big handicap. He has a bit of an awkward head carriage but the ability is definitely there and going right handed seems very important to him.
Ladbroke Handicap Hurdle
City Slicker
€10 e/w @ 12/1 (Ladbrokes, NRNB)I’ve added a small e/w bet on
Flaxen Flare
to the above on City Slicker. Flaxen Flare’s profile is very similar to that of Cause Of Causes who won this last year for Gordon Elliott. He ran well in the Greatwood and I think he’ll be involved in the finish here. I’ve also had an e/w double with Flaxen Flare and
Cause Of Causes
in the Paddy Power Chase.
Ladbroke Handicap Hurdle
Flaxen Flare
€5 e/w @ 16/1 (PP)Flaxen Flare (Ladbroke Hurdle)
Cause Of Causes (Paddy Power Chase)
€5 e/w double @ 16/1 & 14/1 (PP)- €67.48
THM: if you like Flaxen Hill take a look at Totalize who wasn’t far behind at the Festival and receives a massive amount of weight this weekend!
I believe Ellison has kept him to the flat to protect his mark, he is very capable of getting one ready
still a nice EW price despite the 25s disappearingI did look at him when I noticed the gamble today GDC, he has a big swing in the weights alright. 14 lbs for 14 lengths means there should be little between them on Saturday. Elliott is well able lay one out for a big pot himself so should be interesting.
City Slicker is my main arrow though.
Cheltenham bets already made:
Arkle Trophy
Defy Logic
€7.50 e/w @ 20/1 (BV)Champion Hurdle
Annie Power
€5 e/w @ 25/1 (BV)Neptune
Faugheen
€5 e/w @ 16/1 (PP)RSA
Ballycasey
€10 e/w @ 25/1 (BV)Jewson
Un Atout
€15 e/w @ 16/1 (Bet365)Jewson
Felix Yonger
€10 e/w @ 12/1 (BV)Triumph
Analifet
€5 e/w @ 12/1 (PP)Gold Cup
Sir Des Champs
€10 e/w @ 12/1 (Private bet)Now, backing Felix Yonger and Faugheen again.
Jewson
Felix Yonger
€10 e/w @ 8/1 (PP)Neptune
Faugheen
€10 win @ 12/1 (WH)- €97.48
I keep looking down the list of horses on Oddschecker and Taquin De Seuil aside I can’t see a threat. Obviously a long way between now and then but I think Felix should be the same sort of price for this as Champagne Fever is for the Arkle.
You’d like to think you’ll get a run when the race less than a week away but there’s always the chance something will go wrong which is the risk taken.
but had Sizing Tennessee and Sizing Gold yesterday so a small profit for the weekend.- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.