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From my point of view as a distant outsider, it seems ridiculous that a race is being ‘boycotted’ because the tariff says a race on Saturday must be worth x amount more than one on Monday-Thursday. The same amount was good enough for 17 runners to line up at Beverley. If the race was worth no more than a standard Class 5 maiden I would understand.
With Northern Racing digging into their pockets, Jockey Club racecourses doing the same (ironically) and many independent courses doing their best with prize money, the tariff has the potential to turn into the Arena Leisure boycott, if it is not already. And looking ahead, if Arena Leisure stand firm, Class 2-4 races at Lingfield could continue on a trend of being ‘soft.’
The 2 Lingfield races would have been under tariff whatever day of the week they had been run, the idea of the action is to not run in below tariff races not to take advantage of "soft" races created by the action. Of course there will always be "opportunists" in situations like these but thankfully at last owners and trainers are getting their act together.
The 2 Lingfield races would have been under tariff whatever day of the week they had been run, the idea of the action is to not run in below tariff races not to take advantage of "soft" races created by the action. Of course there will always be "opportunists" in situations like these but thankfully at last owners and trainers are getting their act together.
Yes, you’re correct, they would have been below tariff on any day of the week.
If getting their act together provides the race worth the least (along with Lingfield) out of the class 3 races with the most runners, I’m still missing something.
Can anyone advise if the 4.25 Newbury on 15 April is above or below tariff? It’s a class 2 handicap run on a Friday.
I’m afraid I don’t have the tariffs to hand.
Thanks in advance.
Can anyone advise if the 4.25 Newbury on 15 April is above or below tariff? It’s a class 2 handicap run on a Friday.
I’m afraid I don’t have the tariffs to hand.
Thanks in advance.
Currently below by £2700.
Is there no concern that ‘lesser’ trainers are going to seek out below tariff races & clean up some easy money?
And I’ll be honest, if the Tariff boycotts lead to more match races, I’d be quite happy with that.
Is there no concern that ‘lesser’ trainers are going to seek out below tariff races & clean up some easy money?
And I’ll be honest, if the Tariff boycotts lead to more match races, I’d be quite happy with that.
It depends what you mean by ‘clean up’. If you win a class 6 handicap worth £1,500 to the winner you receive in your hands less than £1,200. It will have cost £65 for racing plates £105 for the jockey £45 for lad’s expenses £30 for the entry and a variable amount for travel expenses. You’ll probably be left with about £750. All the other runners in the race of course still have those costs and nothing to show for it but a large bill.
Is there no concern that ‘lesser’ trainers are going to seek out below tariff races & clean up some easy money?
And I’ll be honest, if the Tariff boycotts lead to more match races, I’d be quite happy with that.
It depends what you mean by ‘clean up’. If you win a class 6 handicap worth £1,500 to the winner you receive in your hands less than £1,200. It will have cost £65 for racing plates £105 for the jockey £45 for lad’s expenses £30 for the entry and a variable amount for travel expenses. You’ll probably be left with about £750. All the other runners in the race of course still have those costs and nothing to show for it but a large bill.
Regardless of the prize money involved, anything is easier to win if there are less entrants.
Is there no concern that ‘lesser’ trainers are going to seek out below tariff races & clean up some easy money?
And I’ll be honest, if the Tariff boycotts lead to more match races, I’d be quite happy with that.
It depends what you mean by ‘clean up’. If you win a class 6 handicap worth £1,500 to the winner you receive in your hands less than £1,200. It will have cost £65 for racing plates £105 for the jockey £45 for lad’s expenses £30 for the entry and a variable amount for travel expenses. You’ll probably be left with about £750. All the other runners in the race of course still have those costs and nothing to show for it but a large bill.
Regardless of the prize money involved, anything is easier to win if there are less entrants.
Well, yes, but the point I was trying to make is that is it worth it if prizemoney is that low?
It looks as if Leicester is this weeks target for a boycott. They stage a 1M 4F Class 3 handicap for 3-y-olds rated 76-95 on Saturday, with a prize fund of just £6,000, against a tariff of £13,000.
The race has ‘attracted’ just three entries and is thus re-opened until 10 am tomorrow.
AP
It looks as if Leicester is this weeks target for a boycott. They stage a 1M 4F Class 3 handicap for 3-y-olds rated 76-95 on Saturday, with a prize fund of just £6,000, against a tariff of £13,000.
The race has ‘attracted’ just three entries and is thus re-opened until 10 am tomorrow.
AP
I see Leicester have this morning increased the prize fund for the 4.55 on the 16th by £500.
Doncaster are now increasing prizemoney for eight of their races to be run later this month.
No additional entries were made for the Leicester race next Saturday. The three trainers to make an entry originally are A Balding, R Beckett and H Dunlop.
AP
On the ‘Two Horse Race for the Tote’ thread Ricky Lake states "racing has to fend for itself and not being dependant on hand outs from others", a sentiment with which I agree, or at least do now, now that the Tote is heading into private ownership and the levy a drowning if not quite dead duck
So is this seemingly forced dipping into pockets by the racecourses to make up tariff shortfall actually to be celebrated as the start of racing learning to walk on its own two feet.
‘It will be tough’ seem to be the words-to-effect bandied about by the courses, but will it actually prove to be so? Given a year or so will they and us wonder what all the fuss was about
Have the racecourses actually been trousering far too much of their profits with all/most/many/some having ample reserves to plunder for endowment of races up to and beyond minimum tariff
If Musselburgh and Taunton can bolster prize money to the satisfaction of the tariff-setters then surely the likes of Doncaster can. Yay or nay?
Given entrance fees and on-course food ‘n’ drink prices which by any ‘leisure business’ standards are surely high, togetehr with the oft-repeated mantra that racecourse attendance is booming, one would have thought that the racecourse coffers are brim-full
Anyone know of a resource where gross annual take, net profit etc of all the racecourses, or racecourse groups, is to be found?
On the ‘Two Horse Race for the Tote’ thread Ricky Lake states "racing has to fend for itself and not being dependant on hand outs from others", a sentiment with which I agree, or at least do now, now that the Tote is heading into private ownership and the levy a drowning if not quite dead duck
So is this seemingly forced dipping into pockets by the racecourses to make up tariff shortfall actually to be celebrated as the start of racing learning to walk on its own two feet.
‘It will be tough’ seem to be the words-to-effect bandied about by the courses, but will it actually prove to be so? Given a year or so will they and us wonder what all the fuss was about
Have the racecourses actually been trousering far too much of their profits with all/most/many/some having ample reserves to plunder for endowment of races up to and beyond minimum tariff
If Musselburgh and Taunton can bolster prize money to the satisfaction of the tariff-setters then surely the likes of Doncaster can. Yay or nay?
Given entrance fees and on-course food ‘n’ drink prices which by any ‘leisure business’ standards are surely high, togetehr with the oft-repeated mantra that racecourse attendance is booming, one would have thought that the racecourse coffers are brim-full
Anyone know of a resource where gross annual take, net profit etc of all the racecourses, or racecourse groups, is to be found?
All companies owning racecourses have to publish accounts so there should be a lot of information out there.
On the general point as to whether racecourses have been trousering too much profit, I think the reality is that too many racecouses haven’t been run very well. My local tracks are Stratford and Warwick and both have been appallingly run for some time. I’d love to have the opportunity to transform Stratford racecourse in particular.
The courses that have increased prizemoney are:
Thirsk
Wolverhampton
Folkestone
Southwell
Newbury
Haydock
Bath
Musselburgh
Warwick
LingfieldIt will be interesting to see whether this continues in May and June.
The BHA website hasn’t done the most recent update in blue so I think I missed the fact that Sandown has increased prizemoney quite significantly for four of its races on April 24th and another race on the 23rd. Windsor has also increased prizemoney slightly for two races on the 18th.
The comprehensive list of courses which have increased prizemoney this month so far is now:
Thirsk
Wolverhampton
Folkestone
Southwell
Beverley
Newbury
Haydock
Doncaster
Leicester
Windsor
Bath
Sandown
Musselburgh
Warwick
Lingfield
Newmarket
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