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Does anyone else think that this looks the worst Eclipse for years? wouldn’t like to be sponsoring it <!– s:lol: –>
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Does anyone further think Godolphin might be tempted to run Campanologist, and that he’d have a chance? Can’t have the O’Brien nag on my mind personally.- Total Posts 17716
Does anyone else think that this looks the worst Eclipse for years?.
My thoughts exactly.
When the first 3 in the betting can only muster one gp3 win between them this season, it must be the poorest Eclipse in living memory?
Love Pipedreamer to bits, but his prominence in the market says it all for me.
It might be short on top class quality but its shaping up to be a fascinating race one I’m really looking forward to.
Worst Eclipse in years? I wouldn’t say so it looks open and competitive but that can be a good thing as well as a bad thing. No one likes seeing a "superstar" three year old start a short favourite more than me but it can’t happen every year.
Tonight’s 5f seller at Windsor was fascinating (seriously) but that wouldn’t make it a group race. Saturday’s Eclipse will hopefully be an exciting event but it looks poor on paper, for sure.
As I have read on another forum surely this is just a cyclical thing.
As I remember it Hawk Wing’s Eclipse was a pretty moderate edition.
Colin
It might be short on top class quality but its shaping up to be a fascinating race one I’m really looking forward to.
Worst Eclipse in years? I wouldn’t say so it looks open and competitive but that can be a good thing as well as a bad thing. No one likes seeing a "superstar" three year old start a short favourite more than me but it can’t happen every year.
Open and competitive it may be Ian, but it’s still the worst Eclipse in years in terms of quality. The top four in the betting have had 13 runs between them this season, mustering just one win – they were all beaten last time out!
Like Rory says, there are open and competitive races every day of the week, but those races are worth £5,000 to the winner (if that). The Eclipse carries nearly half a million pound in prize money and should be attracting the best racehorses from around Europe.
It’s an open betting heat I’ll give you that, but for one of the major races on the calendar it lacks somewhat in star quality.
Mike
It’s all part of the plan. Watch out for next year’s race to be switched to a Thursday night in May, before being transferred to a February meeting at Great Leighs.
For a group 1 race, it does look a pretty sub – standard affair this year. The line-up certainly hasn’t got my juices flowing.
I suppose it’s Aidan’s for the taking.
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Couldn’t have Campanologist myself. Think he stole the Ascot race, and even he was full value for it, think he’d have a fair bit on against the likes of Phoenix Tower.
If Plan ends up taking his place – I’ll make sure this time not to go against the team tactics!!!
However, I may just leave the race alone. When it’s as average as this some weird results can be thrown about.
If Plan ends up taking his place – I’ll make sure this time not to go against the team tactics!!!
However, I may just leave the race alone. When it’s as average as this some weird results can be thrown about.
According the the Sporting Life Mount Nelson will be their only runner
As an aside I see the connections of Curtain Call are lodging an appeal saying Alessandro Volta should be placed behind their runner – I think they may have a case.
Its not a race full of Group 1 top notchers thats for sure but it is interesting from a betting point of view.
Literato in his pomp last year would probably beat them all, but given his record for Godolphin so far and that he needs cut he’s easily passed over.
I think Mount Nelson was very,very impressive at Ascot. He flattened 2 furlongs out but picked up again really well in a style that suggests 10 furlongs will be perfect for him. He got badly squeezed and Heffernan had a bundle of horse under him at the finish. The Queen Anne was never meant to be ¨the day¨ and unlike his opponents on Saturday who ran to their max at Ascot, Mount Nelson still has plenty of scope to improve on the 120 he achieved the last day. The classic Ballydoyle slow burner, he wouldnt be a 4yo in training unless he was good. I reckon he has 1 horse to beat, the good but not great Phoenix Tower and have taken the generous 4/1 on Betfair.
Cavelino,
I live very near Sandown and whilst today is the hottest day of the year (27C), there are heavy showers/rain forecast between tomorrow and the Eclipse, so Literato may well get the conditions he needs.I have backed Campanologist at bigger odds than he is now, but will most likely back Literato if the ground softens enough for him to get his toe in.
A good opportunity for Godolphin to get back on track.
I’d be happy to see Literato come back to his best. He was a smashing horse last year and has a massive chance if he reproduced that form. Exchange money is usually a good indicator of Godolphin chances these days, so worth keeping an eye on.
Frankie couldn’t steal the race on the pace with Literato? I won’t bother then. He’s gone off the rails. The Longchamp G-to-S in the d’Ispahan was perfect.
The worst Ive ever seen. Cant believe with some of the 3yos we have this year that none are going to attempt the eclipse. There must be about ten three year olds who could beat this lot.
Campanologist or maybe Phoenix Tower (worth remembering he was a big negative in the POW) are the only ones I would consider betting. Hopefully the rest ofthe card makes up for the terrible "highlight" race.
Holy smokes, just looked on the Racing Post website and they have rated Duke Of Marmarlade 130 for beating that lot at ascot. I am sorry but for me that is the most ridiculous group1 rating I think I have ever seen. 130 horses are so few and far between that I cant believe they have attrbuted him one for that performance. And they have about the first 6 or 7 home over rated too.
Lets see the Duke follow that up with another 130 performance agasint the 3yos. What an absolute joke.
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