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Well he is a very similar type of flat horse to sublimity in terms of trip and ability (unless you take his POW rating seriously which I dont). I dont see cheveley park being as likely to sell to the jumping fraternity, but stranger things have happened.
Afterall, if he doesnt win the eclipse then he will probably never get another chance as easy as this to win a group1 (the irish champion and international will be much tougher than this) so he needs to improve, I have him about 115 which is listed/Group3 class imo.
Where is the pace going to come from though?
I reckon from Multidimensional, who would possibly need every inch and ran far better this time when taking it on. Interesting to see Salselon
Wonder if he could nick it too. Wouldnt be the first time at Sandown
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I find it strange that they’re not considering a pacemaker for Mount Nelson.
Obviously they feel he doesn’t need one, but I wonder if he’ll truly stay the 10f at Sandown?Yes…..
And need a jockey who could perfectly judge a front running run at Sandown. Not easy….
Cauthen’s retired sadly
Would be nice to see Fanning on him wouldnt it?
It wouldn’t surprise me to see Frankie repeat his ride from Ascot on Campanologist.
Fanning – perhaps. anyone but Queally!
There must still be half a chance they’ll leave Plan in to make the pace?
Hope not, as another uncontested lead for Frankie will do nicely….
Interesting preview of the race on the Coral website by one of their odds-compilers (not our own TDK)Would love to see Henry win it with any of his two although Phoenix Tower deserves a big prize.
This may not be a classic Eclipse, but I think it’s a very interesting one. I don’t agree that everything is of sub G1 standard. Imo there is one horse that’s potentially much better than these, that’s Literato. When you compare him to shortish price horses like Pipedreamer and Campanologist, he could be in a different league. Even Mount Nelson and Multidimentional finished a long way behind him in the Champion Stakes last year (probably best not to take the MN distance too literally, but Literato was obviously the better horse that day).
You need to forgive him a moderate run in Dubai on quick ground, & of more concern, a poor run in France…but both of those races are renowned for being top class G1’s, & imo most of the Eclipse field would not have cut much ice in them either. Since last October, Literato has visited France, England, Dubai, back to England, France, then back to England again. If he has now acclimatised/settled in his new home and gets something near his preferred ground, imo he could prove himself as good as his G1 runs last year. We know Godolphin are all about trying to win G1’s, this could be just the type of race they have been targeting.
I’d much rather chance that proven G1 horses will be able to produce their best (like Literato, & to a lesser extent, possibly even Phoenix Tower & Maraahel to run into a place), rather than chance horses that have not delivered at this sort of level yet.
He is clearly the intrigue horse of the race – because he is the only one who can really hold a candle to the Group 1 status for this race.
Analysing the horse and his two starts this campaign and then the Champion Stakes – he’s a hard nut to crack. On face value his class can reign supreme but on face value his past two starts = a heavy lay.
I’d want 2/1 the place before considering anything.
I think you can forgive the d’Ispahan run entirely. I don’t think the horse got into stride whatsoever from 7 furlongs out to a furlong remaining, when Frankie had enough and cuddled him home.
So long as the ground is easing and he is right to go – it maybe worth the E-W ticket and that’s that.
Down to 9 as Hattan, King of Rome and Plan are non-runners so no chance of any team tactics from AOB. Frankie has gone for Campanologist and seems likely Literato may not run if it stays GF.
In response to the original question posed by this thread, worse field for the Eclipse in my memory and if I were Corals I would be pulling sponsorship ASAP.
In response to the original question posed by this thread, worse field for the Eclipse in my memory and if I were Corals I would be pulling sponsorship ASAP.
I don’t think it is that bad and imo better than 2002 when there were only 5 runners and hardly a stellar field and nor was the 1999 race so I don’t see any reason for Corals to jump ship.
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