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He’s hardly beaten nothing Gaz. Harchibald might not be a chaser and his best days are probably behind him but he’s still a high class animal. Bobs Pride is a very useful sort as well.
The race the last day was a decent contest. Major Finnegan’s form got a boost when Jered and Lenabane finished 1-2 in the beginners chase on Sunday and Sizing Europe made him look very ordinary.
He’s certainly beaten better horses than Tataniano. We’d have a better handle on how good he is if Fosters Cross had stood up but unfortunately he didn’t. He’s still got to prove he’s as good as Nicholls says he is. Plenty of his novice chasers over the last few years have failed to live up to the reputations placed upon them.
He’s certainly beaten better horses than Tataniano. We’d have a better handle on how good he is if Fosters Cross had stood up but unfortunately he didn’t. He’s still got to prove he’s as good as Nicholls says he is. Plenty of his novice chasers over the last few years have failed to live up to the reputations placed upon them.
Absolutely.
Tatenen being a fine example of that.
I may be completely wrong, but im always the first to admit if i get it wrong, it’s racing, you get some right, you get some wrong. I just dont think Sizing Europe will be winning The Arkle.
I’m not sure he’ll win it either and I certainly wouldn’t back him at this early stage given how badly he was affected by travelling last season.
If I was offered a match bet between him and Tataniano now though I’d have no hesitation in backing the horse with proven form among the top Grade 1 hurdlers, rather than the young horse who could be anything.
Id like to see tataniano and sizing europe both come under pressure to see what the response is before backing either.
Until then im happy with somersby.
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Tataniano won’t be beaten in the Arkle, you’ve got my word.
What was he like… 2.11s outsight Conaught Chase winning time and he was on the bridle all the way.
Amazing, potentially new Moscow fLYER
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Id like to see tataniano and sizing europe both come under pressure to see what the response is before backing either.
Until then im happy with somersby.
Getting Sizing Europe under pressue will be much more difficult than you might think. Don’t forget he was cruising when he was injured in the CH. He has a tremendously high cruising speed which is more suited to chasing than it is to coming up aganst the Binocular’s and Hurrcane Fly’s of the racing world.
Tantaniano is a very nice horse but I think what you saw at Cheltenham is what you get. If you watch the way he was travelling over the last 4 fences he was going fairly comfortably but he was racing….his neck was sticking out and he was loving it but many of those racey types don’t find an awful lot more when pressure is applied.
It’s fine doing what he’s doing running against inferior animal or a good one that falls when about to take him on, but if he tries that in the Arkle this year he better be faster than the great Dunkirk or he’ll be swallowed up well before the last. Most Arkle’s are won by horses coming off the pace.
They did the same with Tatenen last season and as I thought at the time he was a false fav for the Arkle. When he went to Ireland he was dropped in but it was in a small field and lost out to a good horse giving him weight..Shock!!!…can’t remember name sorry. Then in the Arkle itself his first time in a big field he falls. .
I do think he’s a better sort than Takenen, who I never liked, but this is a much better looking Arkle. The way this lot are going it will take another Master Minded to upset them and as nice a horse as he is I don’t think Tantaniano is up to that mark.
Id like to see tataniano and sizing europe both come under pressure to see what the response is before backing either.
Until then im happy with somersby.
Getting Sizing Europe under pressue will be much more difficult than you might think. Don’t forget he was cruising when he was injured in the CH. He has a tremendously high cruising speed which is more suited to chasing than it is to coming up aganst the Binocular’s and Hurrcane Fly’s of the racing world.
Tantaniano is a very nice horse but I think what you saw at Cheltenham is what you get. If you watch the way he was travelling over the last 4 fences he was going fairly comfortably but he was racing….his neck was sticking out and he was loving it but many of those racey types don’t find an awful lot more when pressure is applied.
It’s fine doing what he’s doing running against inferior animal or a good one that falls when about to take him on, but if he tries that in the Arkle this year he better be faster than the great Dunkirk or he’ll be swallowed up well before the last. Most Arkle’s are won by horses coming off the pace.
They did the same with Tatenen last season and as I thought at the time he was a false fav for the Arkle. When he went to Ireland he was dropped in but it was in a small field and lost out to a good horse giving him weight..Shock!!!…can’t remember name sorry. Then in the Arkle itself his first time in a big field he falls. .
I do think he’s a better sort than Takenen, who I never liked, but this is a much better looking Arkle. The way this lot are going it will take another Master Minded to upset them and as nice a horse as he is I don’t think Tantaniano is up to that mark.
I just feel that sizing europe has serious quirks about him and its ok outclassing far inferior horses around irish tracks but if the guns to his head in a fast run arkle it could be a different story.As you say he was cruising in the champion then mysteriously went wrong….as far as im aware they never got to the bottom of that properly.What if its a cheltenham "thing"?,what if something happens like that in the arkle? what if he makes a mistake early?,what if he is taken on up front early?…to me at the price now i wouldnt be risking it unless i saw him properly tested.To me if i was to choose between him and tataniano for the arkle…although SE is a grade 1 hurdler…id back tataniano purely for the fact he won over fences around cheltenham,and to me that counts for a lot.Especially as he did it despite the ground. In saying that though, im dissappointed fosters cross fell,as i think we could havee found a bit more about tataniano.
They did the same with Tatenen last season and as I thought at the time he was a false fav for the Arkle. When he went to Ireland he was dropped in but it was in a small field and lost out to a good horse giving him weight..Shock!!!…can’t remember name sorry. Then in the Arkle itself his first time in a big field he falls.
Follow The Plan is the horse your thinking of there Fist
I just feel that sizing europe has serious quirks about him and its ok outclassing far inferior horses around irish tracks but if the guns to his head in a fast run arkle it could be a different story.As you say he was cruising in the champion then mysteriously went wrong….as far as im aware they never got to the bottom of that properly.What if its a cheltenham "thing"?,what if something happens like that in the arkle? what if he makes a mistake early?,what if he is taken on up front early?…to me at the price now i wouldnt be risking it unless i saw him properly tested.To me if i was to choose between him and tataniano for the arkle…although SE is a grade 1 hurdler…id back tataniano purely for the fact he won over fences around cheltenham,and to me that counts for a lot.Especially as he did it despite the ground. In saying that though, im dissappointed fosters cross fell,as i think we could havee found a bit more about tataniano.
Sizing Europe injured his back jumping either the second or third last. I wouldn’t have any fears of the Cheltenham course, he’s won a Greatwood Hurdle outbattling Osana up the hill.
The one concern I’d have is actually how well the horse will physically travel to England. He was to run in the Champion Hurdle this year but was pulled out after having an horrendous trip over. I’d say De Bromhead and Potts might consider flying him over rather than taking the Rosslare ferry.
Dave’s Dream makes him chasing debut today at Huntingdon. Personally I feel he is a horse that will be better suited to further but I believe the Arkle is his target this season. Connections have always thought highly of this one and chasing has always been the plan. Numide and Micheal Flips in opposition todays so we may get a couple more Arkle clues.
This is shaping to be the race of the Festival for me so far.
It could be the highest class Arkle in years if not ever. Its almost impossible to spot the winner at this stage, but, like TAPK I like Somersby at the moment.
I can see it being 5/1 the field come March!
Dave’s Dream made hard enough work of that today but you would imagine he will improve quite a bit for that performance. I’m sure Henderson and co. will be pleased as it was a clear round and another run under his belt.
IM CERTAIN THAT TATANIANO WILL BEAT UM HANDS DOWN DOES LOOK A GREAT RACE . THE HORSE I THINK WILL BE SECOND IS OSANA FOR ME HE WAS IDLING ON HIS CHASE DEBUT PULLED AWAY WHEN THE HORSE CUM TO IN. BUT BACK TO TATANIANO BUT WHEN RUBY SAYS THIS HORSE IS GONNA BE A FANTASTIC CHASER U TAKE NOTICE BECAUSE RUBY IS THE BEST JOCKEY EVER . HAHA CONTROVERSIAL BUT WHO CARES MCCOY NOT IN SAME LEAGUE. RUBY HAS SAT ON GENUINE GREAT HORSES MCCOY HASNT ON A REGULAR BASIS
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Id like to see tataniano and sizing europe both come under pressure to see what the response is before backing either.
Until then im happy with somersby.
Getting Sizing Europe under pressue will be much more difficult than you might think. Don’t forget he was cruising when he was injured in the CH. He has a tremendously high cruising speed which is more suited to chasing than it is to coming up aganst the Binocular’s and Hurrcane Fly’s of the racing world.
Tantaniano is a very nice horse but I think what you saw at Cheltenham is what you get. If you watch the way he was travelling over the last 4 fences he was going fairly comfortably but he was racing….his neck was sticking out and he was loving it but many of those racey types don’t find an awful lot more when pressure is applied.
It’s fine doing what he’s doing running against inferior animal or a good one that falls when about to take him on, but if he tries that in the Arkle this year he better be faster than the great Dunkirk or he’ll be swallowed up well before the last. Most Arkle’s are won by horses coming off the pace.
They did the same with Tatenen last season and as I thought at the time he was a false fav for the Arkle. When he went to Ireland he was dropped in but it was in a small field and lost out to a good horse giving him weight..Shock!!!…can’t remember name sorry. Then in the Arkle itself his first time in a big field he falls. .
I do think he’s a better sort than Takenen, who I never liked, but this is a much better looking Arkle. The way this lot are going it will take another Master Minded to upset them and as nice a horse as he is I don’t think Tantaniano is up to that mark.
I just feel that sizing europe has serious quirks about him and its ok outclassing far inferior horses around irish tracks but if the guns to his head in a fast run arkle it could be a different story.As you say he was cruising in the champion then mysteriously went wrong….as far as im aware they never got to the bottom of that properly.What if its a cheltenham "thing"?,what if something happens like that in the arkle? what if he makes a mistake early?,what if he is taken on up front early?…to me at the price now i wouldnt be risking it unless i saw him properly tested.To me if i was to choose between him and tataniano for the arkle…although SE is a grade 1 hurdler…id back tataniano purely for the fact he won over fences around cheltenham,and to me that counts for a lot.Especially as he did it despite the ground. In saying that though, im dissappointed fosters cross fell,as i think we could havee found a bit more about tataniano.
I’ve been following his carreer ever since he made mincmeat of none other than Big Zeb over hurdles who was in great form at the time. Sizing Europe doesn’t have any quirks about him he’s a proper racehorse. You can still watch his early races on ATR and how he did something to himslef approaching the 3rd last at Cheltenham. The horse was all wrong for ages but he’s showing absloutely no signs of that now.
I’ve backed Crack Away Jack (Nap) for this more times than I can remember since way back. Nothing scares me more than Sizing Europe who I wthink would have trotted up in Katchit’s Champion Hurdle had he not gone wrong.
The way he travels in his races is second to none (like he did when destroying Hardy Eustace and co)
If he is back to his best and stays straight they might not even get him off the bridle at Cheltenham.
Personally I wish he would go somewhere else
I’ve been following his carreer ever since he made mincmeat of none other than Big Zeb over hurdles who was in great form at the time. Sizing Europe doesn’t have any quirks about him he’s a proper racehorse. You can still watch his early races on ATR and how he did something to himslef approaching the 3rd last at Cheltenham. The horse was all wrong for ages but he’s showing absloutely no signs of that now.
I’ve backed Crack Away Jack (Nap) for this more times than I can remember since way back. Nothing scares me more than Sizing Europe who I wthink would have trotted up in Katchit’s Champion Hurdle had he not gone wrong.
The way he travels in his races is second to none (like he did when destroying Hardy Eustace and co)
If he is back to his best and stays straight they might not even get him off the bridle at Cheltenham.
Personally I wish he would go somewhere else
Im completely the opposite Ive backed Sizing Europe at 10’s yet Im scared stiff of Crack Away Jack.
Can’t have Tataniano at all he’ll find the Arkle atotally different ball game to what he’s used to.
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Why won’t Sizing Europe have the same problem, Ian, he’s hardly been routing 20-runner fields, has he?
Of the two I still favour Tataniano by quite some way, but I remain hopeful that there are one or two, lurking further down the market, capable of giving them a race (namely Bergo, who gave weight and a pasting to Franchoek yesterday, and Captain Cee Bee).
Any of you guys see Sports Line bolt up today is now 14/1 to win Arkle.I hope he puts in more performances like this so Mikael can run in the RSA.Because i want him to run in the RSA.
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