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October 4, 2015 at 15:28 #1213469
Boom, get in Joe, well done
October 4, 2015 at 15:32 #1213470Fantastic ride from Dettori and what a good horse Golden Horn is. He should still be unbeaten and should’ve won the Derby, King George, Irish Champion and Arc as a three year old. Very good horse.
October 4, 2015 at 16:41 #1213556October 4, 2015 at 16:49 #1213566Frankie gives the winner the run of the race from a bad draw and Jarnet butchers Treve, shows how fickle racing is. The mare had problems when they sacked him off her, Jarnet gets on and gets lucky, rides her badly but still good enough to win a couple of Arc’s Frankie would have won 3 on her…
Not sure any jockey would have won her today Jolly. She just didn’t quite fire on that ground. I was at Ascot where she ran a similar race on similar ground. In my opinion she is a great horse on soft ground and just a very good one on faster. I think the best horse (on that ground) won. He had a terrible draw but Frankie has given him the perfect ride
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
October 4, 2015 at 17:29 #1213614Really enjoyed the race. Best horse won in my opinion. He was always in control and Frankie started celebrating well before the line. He also appeared to still have loads in the tank and I’m convinced he would have gone again if another horse had come near him, as he has done previously. A deserved world champion.
October 4, 2015 at 17:58 #1213632Thats for you Joe,we got there eventually.Well done on your 20/1 voucher.Celebrate hard pal cos Ante-Post betting has to be celebrated!
October 4, 2015 at 21:53 #1213829Thanks, Bobby. Thanks, Gord – that’s a fantastic picture – did you take it?
October 4, 2015 at 22:26 #1213875Well done Joe with the 20’s.
I was on at 5’s, 6’s and again 7’s today as for me the negative was the draw but countered with going he was a decent price. Father and Deaf Jon were also on, Jon at 10’s a few weeks back so it was a noisy household when Frankie hit the lead.Blackbeard to conquer the World
October 5, 2015 at 00:07 #1213911Its amazing how earlier in the season people were asking whether he would stay the trip, and now he looks better over the longer 1m4f! It was a great ride by frankie but Im glad the horse got to show the class that the owner and trainer were saying he had. I have to be honest and say i was skeptical whether he deserved his 130+ rating after the eclipse as it wasn’t exactly an emphatic victory, but this was and now he does.
October 5, 2015 at 00:37 #1213921When Golden Horn won the Eclipse, he posted a faster last two furlongs than what Sea The Stars and Dancing Brave did. So, the moment when the Longchamp ground turned in his favour and he was a definite runner, I knew he had a great chance of lifting this race and readily backed him (seemed somewhat logical) … and what a cracking result!
Frankie gave Golden Horn a masterclass of a tactical ride. You could sense that Frankie was itching for revenge by the way he raced wide before gradually and seamlessly easing Golden Horn into second place. When the horse struck the front into the straight and battled all the way to the line, I shouted the house down. A brilliant, deserved win!
October 5, 2015 at 02:03 #1213978Frankie gives the winner the run of the race from a bad draw and Jarnet butchers Treve, shows how fickle racing is. The mare had problems when they sacked him off her, Jarnet gets on and gets lucky, rides her badly but still good enough to win a couple of Arc’s Frankie would have won 3 on her…
Not sure any jockey would have won her today Jolly. She just didn’t quite fire on that ground. I was at Ascot where she ran a similar race on similar ground. In my opinion she is a great horse on soft ground and just a very good one on faster. I think the best horse (on that ground) won. He had a terrible draw but Frankie has given him the perfect ride
Joni, she covered a few lengths more than the winner in the run so we will have to agree to disagreeOctober 5, 2015 at 06:42 #1214138Golden Horn had loads left at the line. Would never have been beaten on the day. I’m absolutely convinced he would have gone again were another horse good enough to get near him, just like he did in the Eclipse and Irish Champion. He could have won by further out there but he just does enough to win nowadays. Super horse.
October 5, 2015 at 07:24 #1214148Thank goodness the 116 rated Arabian Queen wasn’t in the race! Just goes to show how bad a ride that was at York.Golden Horn should have been unbeaten this year and would be rated very close to Sea the stars if he had.
October 5, 2015 at 08:24 #1214174Agree Gord, you don’t have to be unbeaten to get a mark that Sea The Stars got mind you even Black Bear Island finished ahead of him on debut. Golden Horn for my money is just as good his beating of Peacock over 9f at Newmarket confirmed he was going places, only good horses beat Peacock in his three year season. Peacock himself should be in the breeders cup but it seems Hannon has so many horses in his yard this one has escaped through the fence and is now living with gypsies road racing.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
October 5, 2015 at 13:35 #1214307Thanks, Nathan.
October 5, 2015 at 17:29 #1214355I thought Treve finished closer than I thought she would , given that she fell out the gates
and ran much too freely ( Jarnet seemed at odds with his decision making ) and didn’t
really act well on the firmer ground as she does on softer conditions.Andre Fabre did say , prior to the Arc , that he felt Treve had over exerted herself when
winning in her trial .Fair play to Frankie ( still making the day all about him , until John Gosden subtly put Nick Luck straight )
and Golden Horn , who was absolutely magnificent , and a worthy winner of the best and most competitive flat race in the World .Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
October 5, 2015 at 17:35 #1214357I thought Golden Horn looked special after the dante, and glad to be proved right. Comparisons with Frankel are difficult, but his racing programme (as with Sea the Stars) was much more ambitious. Winning major races in 3 countries, taking in the Derby Arc double; you can’t ask any more than that. Have a slight preference for STS, that he was able to win a classic at a mile and actually won at York perhaps just tips the balance
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