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Interesting article but how do they prove the manoever was deliberate if jockeys do not own up?
O.K. O’donoghue made it blindingly obvious, but now people are looking for it they will not make it as easy to spot again.
"Oops I’ve hung off the rail, and let my stable companion in, what a shame".
It does look almost uninforcable.
It is not that the authorities have only just turned a blind eye to this sought of thing this year. They have been blind for decades.
Now that connections know rule 153, I can see connections of other horses object to the winner under this rule in future.
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Value Is EverythingDandy Nicholls could expect a full investigation if he used these tactics in the Ayr Gold Cup. Its a joke to be honest, the silence is deafening. Murtagh has admitted breaking the rules, and admitted it was premeditated. No official response. Bizzarre.
The British character is just not suited to this type of success and this past week, the mask of politeness has started to crack a little. First Dave Nevison and now Lydia, once of this parish. Who next after the QEII?
Yet it’s relatively simple. Team tactics or not (and others have used much the same tactics over the years), Ballydoyle have battered the locals all season in the races the purists respect.
They’ve dominated like Steve Davis once did on the green baize, Michael Schumacher once did on the asphalt and Tiger Woods still does on golf courses worldwide.
Only two races (the Sussex and the Nassau), were lucky victories, the rest were acts of simple, unspoilt, uncomplicated sporting destruction which exposed the weaknesses inherent in the current crop of thoroughbreds this side of the Irish Sea.
Personally I dislike sporting monopolies, but there’s no reason to nibble on bunches of sour grapes. The domination won’t last, horse racing isn’t like that and we should accept and applaud in a sporting fashion rather than be bitter about it.
The Queen Anne was a complete shocker for me, and the Juddmonte, Irish Derby and Coronation Cup were mildly unsavoury.
Getaway kept in a pocket. Maybe fair, maybe not, but more ‘smoke’ none the less.
I’d call it bad riding… Or good riding on Murtagh’s part.. They aren’t running in lanes, its race riding.
There was nothing wrong with Murtagh’s riding in the Coronation Cup, he rode to win, and Pasquier got himself in a very bad position, though not have been helped by his horse’s reaction to the camber.
How would the pair of you classic winners see the Queen Anne, seeing as you have cherry picked probably the worst example of the problem.
Surely events like the Queen Anne are unacceptable.
How would the pair of you classic winners see the Queen Anne, seeing as you have cherry picked probably the worst example of the problem.
Surely events like the Queen Anne are unacceptable.
The Queen Anne and the Juddmonte are not acceptable for me now that I actually know the rule.
That does not make it ok to lump in whatever bloody race you like..Irish Derby and co included!
I thought Lydia’s article was pretty good. If Murtagh has said that he was deliberately given a passage through then that surely contravenes Rule 153 and if so, there is nothing wrong in pointing it out.
There may be people out there who are jealous/irritated/annoyed by the Ballydoyle domination who have the taste of sour fruit in their mouths and if there are, then that is sad. But surely for the rest of us, who can admire how successful Ballydoyle are, it is possible to make an occasional criticism without being accused of an anti-O’Brien outlook.
The anti-irish jibe is wide of the mark with me. I don’t the team tactics, they are not cricket and are against the rules. The authorities are more concerned with throwing the book at little Kirsty than trying it on with Magnier and co.
Aiden – point taken.
Prior to and after the Eclipse Multi…ran the same. But in the Eclipse Henry had another runner and it looked to me like Multidimensional was used as a pace maker for Phoenix Tower.But that is just my opinion.
PS.Queally was looking back all the time in the Eclipse.How would the pair of you classic winners see the Queen Anne, seeing as you have cherry picked probably the worst example of the problem.
Surely events like the Queen Anne are unacceptable.
Different scenario. I thought it made it a hollow victory due to the ride given to the pacemaker and i’m not particularly for it. If it causes interference then its crossed the line.
Unfortunately the authorities face a difficult issue and one not easy to solve. There are very few people who can employ the same tactics due to simple economics of running pacemakers in G1’s. That makes it an unfair playing field. However, is success a reason to discriminate?
Then there is the question of running a horse to its merits or to win.Mostly, horses ridden from the front have every chance to win so it’s difficult to penalise.
How about setting a minimum rating? Coolmore have already got that covered.
No pacemakers allowed? Who judges that? It would be a very diificult rule to enforce with any consistency therefore it would be ridiculed and fail.
It’s a difficult one to solve and I for one can’t see an easy solution. I’d be interested to hear other’s views on how to solve it.. or if we need to?!
Murtaghs comments clearly indicate the move off the rail to allow him the rail was premeditated. Surely this is all the proof needed? When has deliberately jinking off the rail been trying to achieve best position? Lying about it would look ridiculous. Fine trainer, ban horse and jockey for being non trier / non ridden to achieve best position.
Sure, a drop in the ocean for Coolmore / Godophin, but embarrassing none the less, and a clear message that breaking the rules is unacceptable.
If Aidan is too good you have the solution. Remember when Darkie Prendergast was winning all the 2yo races and Vincent the others?The solution? Warn them off. They were just a couple Irish rogues.
Murtaghs comments clearly indicate the move off the rail to allow him the rail was premeditated. Surely this is all the proof needed? When has deliberately jinking off the rail been trying to achieve best position? Lying about it would look ridiculous. Fine trainer, ban horse and jockey for being non trier / non ridden to achieve best position.
Sure, a drop in the ocean for Coolmore / Godophin, but embarrassing none the less, and a clear message that breaking the rules is unacceptable.
Ok, but what about when a front runner is patently running out of puff and the jock maneuvre’s his horse out of the way of others to minimise interference? What’s the difference? And how do you police it? Not easily.
I agree, it’s technically not on but there are no rules which state that horse racing cannot be a team sport. Nor will there ever be as it would reduce the support of the big players. You’ve got to think about this from all angles and not just your own.
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