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- April 9, 2006 at 14:02 #68545
any latest news on when this horse’s first run may be ?
April 9, 2006 at 17:41 #68546sooner rather than later i would think. Next couple of weeks all being well. She’s just about race fit.
The one thing at the moment is the state of the ground.
She will definitely be a top of the ground filly so unless we hit a sudden dry spell it might have to be the AW i suppose until we get better ground.
April 9, 2006 at 18:04 #68547i’ll keep my eyes open then, good luck. thought i’d ask as there was a previous thread saying about now and one gets curious. any reason it’s not showing on RP db as i though all horses were on there when registered ?
April 9, 2006 at 19:57 #68548dont know to be honest, i was wondering the same thing the other day.
They’ll get round to it sooner or later i suppose.
April 9, 2006 at 20:10 #68549I don’t think horses appear on the database until they have had a race entry.
April 13, 2006 at 10:15 #68550Absolutely correct GD, horses only become registered on the Racing Post database when they get their first entry and all the details of the horse become avalible then.
She’s had a minor set back in that the trainer feels she is not ready yet as she still has a little condition but is pretty straight forward. A few more hard peices of work will get her there and by which time in a few weeks the ground will hopefully have started to firm up as I would rather see her introduction on turf instead of all weather, but we will be governed by the ground.
Flagship,<br>Did you get my PM as I have not recieved a response and I only have 2 shares remaining at the moment as we are retaining some shares for race days only offers this year.
April 18, 2006 at 12:14 #68551Quote: from Shadow Leader on 7:24 pm on Mar. 30, 2006[br]I really wouldn’t bother, Jackane.  All membership entails is receiving a small magazine once a week which is full of self-congratulatory articles and letters from members singing Elite’s praise.  The notes you get on each horse wouldn’t be any more information than is in the public domain and if you want to get information on whether a club runner is fancied you have to ring their hotline to listen to the recorded message.  Ditto if you want anything else or any more info than is in the booklet.  If you want to go to the races you have to telephone yet another ‘hotline’ and go on a waiting list; trainer/stable visits ditto and you have to pay for each one.  I know quite a bit about Elite having had close association with them a few years ago and I would say that their ‘membership’ just isn’t worth it.  I find it especially misleading that they market it as racehorse ownership – it’s not.  You may own one hair in one of the horse’s tails but that is about it.
(Edited by Shadow Leader at 9:25 pm on Mar. 30, 2006)<br>
Just to put Shadow Leader straight
You do get a newsletter (50 per year) which is glossy and of very good quality. The majority of the letters pages do praise the club (probably because we have generally done pretty well for the last couple of seasons ie in the top ten owners over jumps and on the flat last season), but some do criticise horses/trainers management of the club.
As for the info about the horses, some trainers are more forthcoming than others. As for the betting information, well I prefer to make my own mind up. It is NOT true that you are advised to back very horse that runs.
Obviously, with 18000 members, there are logistical complications with membership. You do have to apply for a paddock place to see horses run. If you want to be in the paddock to see Soviet Song then you’ve got little chance. On the other hand, I was in the paddock to see Oceans Apart win at Windsor last year.
You DON’T pay for stable visits (you are asked to contribute if you are bringing non-member guests) unless of course there is a lunch afterwards (sometimes optional, sometimes not). There are limits to the numbers which can be accomodated at each visit, but there often more than one visit to a stable per year. For example, there are 3 visits a year to Pegasus Stables to see JR Fanshawe and his club horses.
So yes, you won’t get the same involvement with Elite, as if you were the member of a smaller syndicate like the Tajjree syndicate. James fanshawe doesn’t want 18000 phone calls per week asking him about Soviet Song, does he?
But you do get 20 horses and a breeding programme, and a fixed financial commitment-I guess it’s what you want.
Good luck with Tajjree. Have a great season with him.
April 18, 2006 at 17:32 #68552Correct me if I am wrong SS but I have a feeling, a hunch if you will, that you might be a fan of the Elite Racing Club operation…
April 18, 2006 at 22:39 #68553Quote: from Seven Towers on 6:32 pm on April 18, 2006[br]Correct me if I am wrong SS but I have a feeling, a hunch if you will, that you might be a fan of the Elite Racing Club operation…
ST, I have been a member of ERC for many years, and have enjoyed myself greatly over that time.
I’ve made a few quid backing their horses, and had the thrill of seing a club horse run in a classic, win 5 group ones, and see plenty of other good quality performances under both codes.
My level of ownership is not that of a Tabor, Magnier or McManus, or even that of you good folk in the Tajjree partnership, but I enjoy it, so good for me, eh?
my last post in connection with ERC was to merely point out the REALITIES of ERC membership, not the fantasy that Shadow Leader was describing?
Want to know if Penzance is fancied for tomorrow at Cheltenham? Well actually……
April 19, 2006 at 08:35 #68554If you want to sing their praises why don’t you do on their website… This is getting boring
April 19, 2006 at 08:58 #68555Quote: from Aragorn on 9:35 am on April 19, 2006[br]If you want to sing their praises why don’t you do on their website… This is getting boring
I’m not singing their praises, merely pointing out the innacuracies of another poster.
You don’t have to read what I have to say, if you don’t want to.
April 19, 2006 at 09:44 #68556Back to the subject matter and all being well she’ll be running in about 4 weeks time.
April 19, 2006 at 12:49 #68557Hooray! Good luck all.
April 19, 2006 at 13:28 #68558Agreed, hope he does you all proud.
April 20, 2006 at 05:01 #68559Great news GD! I’m looking forward to it. :)
April 23, 2006 at 16:52 #68560Fantasies, Soviet Song? I don’t think so – and I know a lot about how Elite is run, I can assure you. Most visits you have to pay for, ie for the morning group stable visits and stuff that aren’t to Clive Cox’s.
If you like it then fine – but I am firmly of the opinion that Elite racing is a complete waste of money and that ERC are rip-off merchants.
By the way, I didn’t say anywhere that they advise you to back all their horses – I said that if you want to know whether to back one or not you have to ring one of the many hotlines they have – like you have to for most things (ie going on waiting lists for passes to the races, stable visits etc).
April 25, 2006 at 11:01 #68561Quote: from Shadow Leader on 5:52 pm on April 23, 2006[br]Fantasies, Soviet Song?  I don’t think so – and I know a lot about how Elite is run, I can assure you.  Most visits you have to pay for, ie for the morning group stable visits and stuff that aren’t to Clive Cox’s.
If you like it then fine – but I am firmly of the opinion that Elite racing is a complete waste of money and that ERC are rip-off merchants.
By the way, I didn’t say anywhere that they advise you to back all their horses – I said that if you want to know whether to back one or not you have to ring one of the many hotlines they have – like you have to for most things (ie going on waiting lists for passes to the races, stable visits etc).
<br>Tellme then SL, when did you have to pay for a stable visit?
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