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- March 9, 2012 at 13:24 #395528
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March 9, 2012 at 13:49 #395532.
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March 9, 2012 at 14:39 #395543Echoes of the raid on the 2000 guineas two years ago.
Had a point on Divapour for that reason. 66/1.
I think it is the same owners as that sneaky guineas raider too. 66-1 is too big. winning 20k races in pau is nice enough form. This race is wide open.
Excellent time at Pau over 2m2f when compared with other French imports. Really good.
March 9, 2012 at 17:03 #395561I am not sure what to make of Divapour. Obviously nice to be unbeaten over hurdles, but the horses he beat have all be smashed out of sight in listed or graded hurdles. From Racing Post comments, it sounds like he had to work hard to see them off, too.
I am sure he won’t be coming over for nothing though. He looks (admittedly from seeing one video) like a typical Daylami who saves a bit for himself, so perhaps the form being let down is not relevant.
March 9, 2012 at 17:12 #395563The trainer keeps saying he’s not coming over. Not sure why he’s still entered.
March 9, 2012 at 21:46 #395611Damn your right just seen trainers comment. All I can hope is the owner wanted him left in n might still fancy a day in the Cotswolds
March 9, 2012 at 22:04 #395614Bloody French…
March 9, 2012 at 22:13 #395616I’ve had a bet on Divapour NRNB so if he doesn’t run it’s not then of the world for me. My main fancy is still Dylan Ross each way. I find it hard to imagine him being off the bridle before the last. He will most likely get out-battled in the finish but 33/1 represents cracking each way value imo. And, who knows, on good ground he might see out his race better and get married
March 10, 2012 at 23:21 #395769I’ve had a bet on Divapour NRNB so if he doesn’t run it’s not then of the world for me. My main fancy is still Dylan Ross each way. I find it hard to imagine him being off the bridle before the last. He will most likely get out-battled in the finish but 33/1 represents cracking each way value imo. And, who knows, on good ground he might see out his race better and get married

I’m in agreement on Dylan Ross. He might well get out battled by a better sort as he has on his last few runnings but at the odds he is very good value.
My other fancy in the race would be Tetlami. Has been impressive on his two hurdle appearances so far and seems to have a pretty powerful engine at the end of his races. Possibly would need further in time?….but my preference is to know the horse would get the distance in a normally fast run opener. Not that it was in the same sphere but he also looked quite good in his only appearance at Chelters, finished off his bumper very well.
March 10, 2012 at 23:35 #395773Henderson & Geraghty have both said that Darlan is better than Tetlami. Geraghty said Tetlami wouldn’t get within a furlong of Darlan actually…
March 11, 2012 at 00:48 #395783Henderson & Geraghty have both said that Darlan is better than Tetlami. Geraghty said Tetlami wouldn’t get within a furlong of Darlan actually…
That could more than likely end up being the case but my personal preference is not to back lto fallers, especially in the novice sphere…a scheme which probably costs me quite a bit of money!! But just a personal preference.
Really looking forward to this years renewal though, looks like there’s quite a few with decent chances.
March 11, 2012 at 09:28 #395805While I fancy his chances and have already backed him, anybody taking the current best price 9/2 about Darlan in this open race is criminally insane IMO.
Lee
March 11, 2012 at 10:55 #395815I agree. We haven’t had a Supreme this open since Captain Cee Bee’s. There are nine or ten with realistic chances and to be backing any of them at around 9/2 is poor value imo.
March 11, 2012 at 11:25 #395817I thought about this the other day. Why is it more open? Only because of the betting. Dunguib and Cue Card were both trounced, therefore they were also very open.
March 11, 2012 at 11:38 #395821I thought about this the other day. Why is it more open? Only because of the betting. Dunguib and Cue Card were both trounced, therefore they were also very open.
This years renewal can be percieved as more open because there seems to be far more viable candidates than the two years mentioned.
Dunguib’s Supreme lacked any strength in depth. Menorah, Get me Out of Here and Oscar Whisky were the ony realistic opponents that day. The majority of the 18 runners had no percieved chance going in. A very weak renewal.
Cue Card’s Supreme going into it was IMO strong, but again lacked significant depth to it. I thought Sprinter Sacre/Sprit Son were very viable candidates whilst i backed Al Ferof. Outside of these however, i didn’t think anything else had a chance. Recession Proof/Zaidpour in my eyes had no chance.
March 11, 2012 at 11:54 #395825I thought about this the other day. Why is it more open? Only because of the betting. Dunguib and Cue Card were both trounced, therefore they were also very open.
This years renewal can be percieved as more open because there seems to be far more viable candidates than the two years mentioned.
Really ? I think there’s about four that can win, which is about the average.
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