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4/6 and 6/4 you?
I would hope to be shorter than 4/6 Drone as I will only be in my early 60s, although with the life cycles of the males on both sides of the family I am far from a dead cert, pardon the pun.
Don’t mess with Homer on the subject of the Calendar!
Correct Ian. My party trick was to tell a person on which day of the week they were born from their date of birth. Now you can just google it which is no fun
To no great surprise a Chronologist outwits a Dronologist
Despite delving Google, the RP database, Timeform and Old Moore’s Almanac I still got it wrong
Now to dig the hole I’m in even deeper: I think it’s safe to say that earliest the 1,000 Guineas has been run since it was moved to Sunday is 1st May but prior to 1995 when it was run on the preceding Thursday an April running must have been quite frequent with 28/29/30th possible. Don’t think I’ll bother checking though
Life would be much simpler if there were 364 days in a year, though I guess biennial leap years would then be required
Correlating the Solar Year with the Calendar Year is a perplexing problem; the root of the problem I think being that the solar day is nearly but not quite 24 hours
Good stuff, thanks Homer
Drone,
“Presumably Ayr did not want to race on Good Friday, if so why not?”
Just a guess, but perhaps because they would have difficulty getting a licence from the local authority. Ayr only have one Sunday meeting each year, which is usually a sign that the locals don’t like their rest days being disrupted.
And also the prospect of no, or very few, trains from Glasgow. When the final decisions were taken on the 2022 fixture list, there had been no Sunday services on Scotrail for about six months because of strike action. And most public transport would run a Sunday timetable on Good Friday. Not to mention that Easter weekend is a favourite for rail engineering works – see the issues with the Cup semi finals at Wembley for evidence of that problem.
All quite plausible reasons
I’d also proffer a tentative guess that the Church of Scotland remains a relatively strong influence in the area and its adherents would not be keen on racing being held on the holiest of holy days
“It’s to do with the way that Easter falls” but then doesn’t explain why that matters.
Also interesting that he says that “we agreed to it” which suggests that it wasn’t Ayrs idea.
Just unearthed this thread of eight years ago:
The search function on the forum is indeed terrible, so a simple question to the forum management – why doesn’t it work and is there any chance of getting it fixed?
Has it ever happened before?
Ian Davies – “run at Liverpool”
Well done, much preferable to the growing band (mainly Irish origin) who seem to prefer to say “run in Liverpool”
Indeed, if races were run “in” towns and city centres there would be all manner of pedestrian injuries!
Races are run “at” racecourses usually located on the outskirts of towns and cities – and certainly NOT “in” them!
And it’s “last time out,” NOT “the last day” – and in my day horses ran on well (or otherwise) “under” pressure, NOT “for” pressure – don’t get me started, oh, too late!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"… could be ‘run in’ if the wonderful Peter Phillips City Racing concept came to fruition. Back to the old days of the 3.20 at Liverpool.
Anyone called The Pilgarlic must surely know Peter O’Sullevan’s immortal 1977 commentary word for word.
It was definitely “you’ve never heard anything like it AT Liverpool.”
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Going by the signage on the A59, the racecourse isn’t in Liverpool, but that’s being pedantic.
Regarding the calendar, I’m sure in 1989 Kempton opened the Flat turf season, on Easter Saturday, followed a week later at Doncaster.
Ive never liked the Scottish national and not entirely sure why. Boring track maybe and fag end of season ?
“Going by the signage on the A59, the racecourse isn’t in Liverpool, but that’s being pedantic.”
It is not pedantic. Aintree is part of Sefton, not Liverpool.
When Peter O’Sullevan exclaimed: “….AT Liverpool!” he was, of course, referring to the then name of the racecourse and not its exact geographical location.
Immortal commentary for me – and an enduring victory for “at, not in” disciples!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Yes, it is – and the first GN wasn’t even held at Aintree. There is a reason there is a Racecourse Road in Maghull, near The Meadows pub on Liverpool Road South.
Plenty of debate on the correct use of the ‘prepositions of location’ see here for starters:
I’m in Liverpool at the racecourse
I’m at Liverpool in the racecourse
I’m in Liverpool in the racecourse
I’m at Liverpool at the racecourse
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