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- August 6, 2009 at 17:31 #242783
Well sadly Masterofthehorse is no longer at Ballydoyle and was bought, after Goodwood he will go to Qatar.
Black Bear Island too is no longer at Ballydoyle.
Gee, it really doesn’t make a support case for the talents of the remaining Classic stablemates this year does it? Rip Van Winkle’s dropped back to 1m2f and then wins the Sussex as well.
I’m steering well clear of Golden Sword and Age Of Aquarius.
However, I’ve very little idea what makes a Leger horse.
August 11, 2009 at 11:57 #243343Anyone else feel unsure about Urban Poet’s return to Godolphin?
He’s in the St Leger market and Mark Johnston was targeting the race from comments made late last week.
Now he becomes a stablemate to another highly touted Leger contender in Kite Wood, one I have been considering to a large extent these past few days.
Unless Godolphin will re-jig Urban Poet’s schedule, I’m a little hesitant to push forward with the Kite Wood enthusiasm.
August 15, 2009 at 17:47 #244060Nice performance from Kite Wood.
He won’t be double figures now!

As good a trial for Doncaster as you are likely to see.
August 15, 2009 at 18:16 #244063Reasonable enough trial. Didn’t fancy him beforehand, news that he was sweating up gave even less cause for encouragment, but he overcame that well enough.
August 15, 2009 at 18:25 #244064Corm
It is a trait of Kite Wood’s that he gets above himself in the prelims, but as you saw, it doesn’t affect his performance.
August 15, 2009 at 21:04 #244077
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That was more like the Kite Wood of old who I backed earlier this year…..fingers are still sizzling

My worry with him is what you see is what you get and I don’t think that was a good enough performance to win a St Leger. He looks as good as he was last year a decent Group 3 horse.
Harbinger has much more scope for improvement but the big if with him is will he stay whereas Kite Wood looked like he could have kept going for another 1/2 mile.
It’s not a great looking St Leger and will be even worse looking if Harbinger doesn’t go.
Kite Wood could prove to be good enough but until we see how SMS’s goes in the Great Voltiguer I woudn’t be sure enough to back him.
I really don’t fancy Age of Aquarious he’s a totally false price for this IMO.
Mourayan may be a rag but he like Kite Wood will get the trip and if it comes up soft/heavy I would still give him a good chance.
August 20, 2009 at 12:58 #244917Up to yesterday I haven’t had a really strong opinion on this race, but after watching the Ebor I think Changingoftheguard must have a huge chance if he runs. If he had had a clear run, he could have won by 4 or 5 lengths.
Thankfully for me he did not

I think it was obvious after the race that he was far superior to any of the other runners. The St Leger doesn’t look like a vintage renewal by any manner of means, so COTG has a serious chance imo.
August 24, 2009 at 00:42 #245461one dark horse could be yankee doodle but i dont know if he ll turn up
August 24, 2009 at 21:54 #245579Do wonder about Changingoftheguard’s temperament; they treated him with kid gloves before the Ebor [maybe they do so with all of their horses, I’ve never been on a racetrack to see that before] keeping him away from the others during the parade and going down to post. Wasn’t too surprised when I heard afterwards about his antics in the stalls, and then realised he was by Montjeu. Yankee Doodle is worth looking into. From memory [and not a very good one] am I right in thinking that he has been staying on really well at the end of his races?
August 24, 2009 at 22:08 #245583i think i remember Yankee Doodle being beaten by profound beauty recently not by a lot though.
August 24, 2009 at 22:20 #245588Ladbrokes haven’t got a price for Yankee Doodle so I’d assume he’s not running. Glad towerto mentioned him, though because I’d be interested to see where he’s running next.
August 26, 2009 at 21:59 #245958I had a small bet on Age Of Aquarius for this before the Derby and I like him best of the O’Brien entries but the horse that stands out for me now at the prices is
Father Time
. He is very close to AoA on Lingfield form, his Newmarket conquerer Palavcini has not let that form down, he then won the G2 King Edward at the Royal Meeting….looking improved at the trip.
His Voltigeur form, admittedly, doesn’t look great but he was penalised in that event and that surely cannot have been his target. Not a cast iron pedigree but run style looks sound. Worth a punt at 12/1, I think.August 27, 2009 at 01:00 #245994Was a big fan of Father Time but his record on courses with straights longer than 2 1/2f is dismal (thanks Mr Mordin).
August 27, 2009 at 11:34 #246051Was a big fan of Father Time but his record on courses with straights longer than 2 1/2f is dismal (thanks Mr Mordin).
He’s had six runs in his life. I’d be very reluctant indeed to start drawing conclusions from such limited evidence about the type of track he needs.
August 27, 2009 at 16:41 #246075
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Seems like everyone is down to talking shyte here so I’ll join in.
Father Time would need a time machine to win the St Leger .

Age of Auarius win a classic? not in my life time he wont. Big useless piece of lard shoud be 50/1 win only
Kite Wood is the biggest certainty ever to run in this race……certainty to get beat that is. Something will run him into 2nd as sure as God made little green apples
Monitor Closely will not run 100% certain
The winner….2 great St Leger trials one after the other….Mourayan will top of the year for John Oxx.
August 27, 2009 at 17:07 #246079This has to be one of the dirtiest betting races of the season. Full of underachievers and nearly horses.
August 27, 2009 at 17:54 #246081Cant see any of the entries at the moment winning this they are all out and out stayers imo and the leger usually goes to a horse with a bit of speed and turn of foot. If they run either Manifest or Monitor Closely i will be steaming in as they also imo have room for improvement. Manifest cos of the amount of runs and Monitor Closely because he has been running over trips completely wrong for him. Both sets of connections should see the opportunity imo
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