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    Avatar photoGerald
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    I’d like to see a headon of the race. Mourayan seemed to snatch up twice, but I’m not sure he was actually short of room on both occasions. Perhaps he’d be better off without the blinkers? Cheekpieces, maybe?

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    There was little doubt, on his Voltigeur run, that the extra two furlongs would prove to be within his reach – indeed the race proved he stayed the trip perfectly well – so why go from running prominently to coming from behind?

    Mastery may well have won anyway, but I don’t think Peter will thank Fortune for that ride.

    #248520
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    PCH did indicate before the race on C4 that Fortune may change tactics from his win at York.

    I thought Fortune gave the horse a sound ride.

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    Well done Zarkava, i am glad someone has been successful,as it happens it has been my worst result of the year! Had Changingoftheguard won it would have confirmed the race was no better than a Handicap,particularly with The Betchworth Kid and Nanton winning recently! The horse to take from the race is undoubtedly Kite wood!

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    I’m still trying to work out why Monitor Closely had to come from behind, given that he made all and hammered Mastery last time out.

    Don’t think he had much choice, given the extra 2.5 furlongs and the uncertainty about his stamina.
    Imo, he travelled like much the best horse in the race, certainly wasn’t done for speed at any stage, and just hit a brick wall about 1 out when the fuel ran out. Considering he murdered the winner over shorter, and how he raced today, I’d say he’s the one class horse in a moribund field.
    Well done to Zarkava for spotting the winner though (and Equi for the Portland). 8)

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    There was little doubt, on his Voltigeur run, that the extra two furlongs would prove to be within his reach – indeed the race proved he stayed the trip perfectly well – so why go from running prominently to coming from behind?

    Mastery may well have won anyway, but I don’t think Peter will thank Fortune for that ride.

    Equitrack, I backed MC too and was disappointed to see the tactics used, but it didn’t come as a surprise. PCH revealed before the race that they had a ‘different plan’ and so I expected MC to come from just off the pace, as he did, and attempt to out-speed them :roll:

    In hindsight – and I’m sure PCH will admit – it was a mistake. The horse got every yard of the trip.

    #248562
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    I’d tend to agree MC is the best horse in the race and I think he will be winning group 1’s over 1m 4 in the future. Im not sure he did stay the trip he was running all over the shop in the last 100 yards signs of a very tired horse imo.

    #248564
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    I’d like to see a headon of the race. Mourayan seemed to snatch up twice, but I’m not sure he was actually short of room on both occasions. Perhaps he’d be better off without the blinkers? Cheekpieces, maybe?

    It appeared to be misjudgements from his rider on both occasions- perhaps a shade unfortunate in the latter case that the gap closed as Monitor Closely (?) hung left. Mourayan shaped like a clear third-best in the least from the quick couple of times I watched the race.

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    Monitor Closely’s trainer Peter Chapple-Hyam said: "He didn’t stay, which is what I thought all along.

    To be fair though, Peter, you did think he was a miler…

    #248575
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    From RP quotes:

    "He came there cantering to win, but Jimmy said he just didn’t stay. There was a chance that we wouldn’t stay. That’s why we dropped him in, if we’d had him up there, he would have finished further back".

    PCH

    #248579
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    From RP quotes:

    "He came there cantering to win, but Jimmy said he just didn’t stay. There was a chance that we wouldn’t stay. That’s why we dropped him in, if we’d had him up there, he would have finished further back".

    PCH

    I – with my limited knowledge in comparison to the experts – am not having that at all.

    The front two were not exactly running away from MC – who seemed to be staying on at the one, or at the very least, same pace as the front two. He may not have been flying home, but then nothing was.

    #248582
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    Fair enough OTS, everyone’s entitled to their opinion and no one gets it right all the time, but you might care to consider this:
    In the Voltigeur, though he made all the runnng, Monitor Closely was actually going away from Mastery and Father Time in the closing stages, a sure sign he was better than them, yet today he wasn’t even making ground on them at the death. There has to be a reason for that, and trainer, jockey and RP analyst, all seem agreed that the problem was the extra distance.
    We both backed a loser today, neither of us will become ‘experts’ by blaming others.

    ps I note that another ‘expert’, James Willoughby, accredited his Voltigeur win to "an easy lead".
    In view of today’s race, that really is laughable. :lol:

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    Away in NYC at the moment and yet to see the race.

    I see Kite Wood ran second – a nice little ante-post earner (although it will hardly make me rich).

    Did Frankie ride to my instructions from a previous post?!!

    He’ll be competing in top twelve furlong contests next season (as previuosly stated) and will make up into a lovely 4YO.

    Oh well, back out for a few more.

    All the best!

    #248762
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    He’ll be competing in top twelve furlong contests next season (as previuosly stated) and -Will Make Up Into A Lovely Four Year Old.
    Sound like Dermot Weld anybody?

    #248764
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    I’d see Kite Wood as much more a Cup horse.
    Even Godolphin seem to think he’s a bit of a boat, and nothing in his form suggests otherwise.

    #248765
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    I’d see Kite Wood as much more a Cup horse.

    100% agree.

    #249073
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    The Von steams in by 3.5 lengths!

    Go the Von for the 2010 Melbourne Cup! He’ll have to go for it – they’ve got rid of all the other horses except Age Of Aquarius.

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