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July 18, 2020 at 09:31 #1494237
I’ll feel a lot safer when stealing a couple of little red pens in the local Ladbrokes that the camera won’t be so effective on the Crimewatch e-fit….
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July 18, 2020 at 11:00 #1494254Sorry to disappoint you Nathan but when I was in Ladbrokes last week they didn’t have the pens out. They had them behind the counter and you had to ask for one. Whether you’re supposed to return them I don’t know as I just borrowed one that a man had foolishly left unattended. Knowing Ladbrokes, I wouldn’t be surprised if you had to sign for one!
July 18, 2020 at 12:01 #1494264I’ll sign it out in Hein’s name…
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July 18, 2020 at 13:06 #1494267I can’t see a problem wearing a mask.
I have spent the last three months in hospital and all the nurses were wearing them for their complete shift. If they can do that I don’t see any problem wearing one for a few minutes in a shop.
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysJuly 18, 2020 at 15:07 #1494276Unfortunately, you’re missing the point, Purwell. Our forefathers fought in the great wars precisely so that we would have the right to spread a deadly virus with impunity.
July 18, 2020 at 15:59 #1494285If you are brainwashed then you are brainwashed.
There is no deadly virus. COVID 19 kills less people than an average flu virus, a flu virus that has miraculously disappeared this year and killed nobody.
2 weeks ago the science said (according to the government)that mask wearing is ineffective and probably causes more harm than good.
Now mask wearing is mandatory if you want to shop though not mandatory for shop staff or pub goers because the science this week says masks are good.Guess what whenever they are ready to release the vaccine (won’t be long) the new science will say that mask wearing is ineffective and the new thing will be you can’t go in the shop without the vaccine.
This virus is political and the outcome is not good even for the obedient sheep who actually believe this psychopathic government want to protect them.
All who gave there lives for our freedom in WW2 did it for nothing.
Depopulation is in full effect.
July 18, 2020 at 16:16 #14942882020
COVID 19 deaths – 597,148
Flu deaths – 371???The actual deaths of COVID 19 (the flu) will actually be much lower than that official figure as the numbers are completely false as to be marked down as Covid 19 you only needed to show symptoms of it not actually tested.
There has been a huge psychological operation by every countries media since day 1 to convince people this is a serious killer. It isn’t it’s the flu. We are being slaughtered and people are applauding it.
Take off your slave mask and be prepared to die fighting the NWO. You owe it to those who died to give us freedoms.
July 18, 2020 at 21:15 #1494327I’m totally confused. What are we being slaughtered by, if it’s not covid or flu. Death by mask?
July 18, 2020 at 23:25 #1494330“The evidence is weak and the effect is small.” – Downing Street briefing, April 28.147 days since the UK’s first coronavirus death, the government will make face coverings mandatory in England’s shops.
Posted by JOE.co.uk on Tuesday, 14 July 2020
The mask itself is unlikely to kill you anytime soon though no doubt some will die from panic attacks etc as a result of wearing them.
The flu virus/COVID-19 certainly won’t slaughter us it will merely pick off the the vulnerable the same as the flu has done since time begun.When you accept that you need to wear a mask to do your shopping and a high percentage of society are prepared to police it themselves and pick on non mask wearers even though many are genuinely exempt due to health conditions, the next step is that the vaccine will be released and at this point the government will revert to their original stance that face masks do nothing.
You will then if you refuse to take the vaccine be refused entry to shops to buy your food, you will not be allowed to have a Job or to trade and you won’t get any money from the state (in the bible this is referee to as The Mark Of The Beast). It is the rushed and improperly tested vaccine that will slaughter us on mass though we will be told it’s completely safe. It takes years and years to safely create a vaccine and even then only the test of time will truely tell if it was safe or not. If billions die worldwide from the rushed vaccine then that’s unfortunate unless your goal is depopulation of course in which case it becomes a result.
Millions more will die protesting the new world order.
Also many will die from worldwide food shortages. There is a reason why meat factories and farms are being quarantined and it will result in a major worldwide food shortage as the food chain is systematically attacked and stopped (in the name of keeping us safe).
Millions more will die at the hands of gangs who will run the streets.
Don’t accept the face mask, you are a healthy human being with an immune system. If you are vulnerable shield yourself and protect yourself the same as you would do any other year.
If you actually believe the governments of the world actually give a toss about us then you have been brainwashed.
If you think what I write is conspiracy theory bs then you will find out the hard way.
It’s not too late to stand up and take a stance but it requires the majority to see through the lies and fight back before it’s too late.
Ideally before the winter flu season arrives as the Nightingale hospitals will be overflowing this winter and the NHS will collapse. If we wait til then it’s already too late. We will be back under lockdown but this time with a major food shortage and the army will be on the streets policing the next lockdown which will be 100 times tougher.
Thanks to the 6 months plus of complete brainwashing we have received and people’s immune systems being ruined due to fear combined with lack of food, the 2nd lockdown will kill millions and send people over the edge as well as completely destroying forever our already ruined economy which in turn will result in millions more non virus related deaths.And of course when people start dropping like flies this winter flu season many white people who’s family has died of ‘COVID-19 will blame black people for the BLM protests through the summer and create racism like never before seen in this country.
It’s just a mask though
July 19, 2020 at 08:02 #1494341The World Health Organisation was advising against the use of masks quite recently, even saying they could be counter-productive. Now it is all in favour of them. The BBC’s medical editor asked why and was told it was a result of political lobbying, not scientific evidence. It takes much longer than three months for scientific proof to be established.
The Oxford Centre for Evidence Based Medicine has discovered that Public Health England is recording Covid as the cause of death whenever anyone has tested positive, even if it did not kill them. In some of these cases the positive test was weeks ago. Some have actually died of heart attacks or other causes. One or two even died in road accidents but have been recorded as Covid. Who can seriously believe the 45,000 figure after this discovery?
Papers arguing against masks have started to disappear from the internet. Papers arguing in favour use words like they may or could or possibly be helpful. In other words, there is no strong, compelling evidence that justifies enforcing their use.
We have trashed our economy and trampled all over our civil liberties because of a virus, the effects of which have been deliberately misreported and exaggerated. The number of people who have died who were under 60 and without a pre-existing health condition is literally a few hundred.
If we still had proper journalists in this country then the public would be better informed. It is very difficult to believe the tough Fleet Street hacks of old swallowing such obvious nonsense.
I wonder how much longer the public will support this when the economic consequences become clear. Mass unemployment, tax rises, inflation robbing people of their savings. But never mind. Genius Rishi Sunak is going to give us a voucher to buy dinner for half price. So that’s all right then.
And it will have consequences in our little world. Ed Vaughan announced he is quitting this week and he is a fairly successful trainer. He will not be the last. Plenty of owners will have to give up. Prize money has already taken a huge hit. It makes no sense for smaller owners to have horses in training and smaller trainers will find it impossible to keep going. I expect a few racecourses will have to close as well.
July 19, 2020 at 16:25 #1494414The home of intelligent horse racing discussion, but not, it seems, the intelligent discussion of anything else.
July 20, 2020 at 02:29 #1494479The Dunning-Kruger effect in this thread……
July 20, 2020 at 04:53 #1494481I’ve no interest in conspiracy theories but there is just too much not adding up to there not be something going on. As a few have said masks were dismissed as not necessary for weeks then suddenly they are ok. Johnson says he will not have to lockdown again having delayed lockdown for a crucial two weeks that caused thousands of unnecessary deaths and thousands of jobs. Everyday we hear contradictory statements and all different British govts are doing a different strategy. The worst is that we aren’t being told the truth of job losses and the inevitable recession plus the govt and companies using Covid to obliterate workers rights. Surreal and dangerous times.
July 20, 2020 at 07:36 #1494483“The Dunning-Kruger effect in this thread“
Feel free to logically explain to me why there has only been 371 flu deaths world wide this year when the average number of flu deaths is half a million. These are official stats taken from the WHO and can be searched for by yourself.
Feel free to explain why the virus started in Wuhan and we were shown men in white virus suits walking round the streets, people were apparently literally dropping dead on the streets and bodies were everywhere as the people dropped like flies, authorities in white suits were dragging people from there homes and forcibly taking them from there homes.
Is your experience of this deadly virus similar to the original things we saw coming from China? I haven’t seen anyone in the white suits, I haven’t seen anybody drop dead in the streets, I haven’t seen any evidence of a killer virus.Why then after the horrific original China stories and videos did the virus gradually travel from east to west. It reached Italy which we were then shown daily in the media complete with horror stories then it reached Spain, a few weeks later it reached the UK and then it made it to North America.
How is it possible for a virus to travel like that when thousands of people would have been flying from Wuhan to the UK and America daily? Can you explain that one to me logically or was this extreme propaganda to ready us to be terrified by the virus.
Why did the Uk government downgrade the virus from a highly contagious infectious disease to a flu level virus on March 19th but the media didn’t think to inform us about that and instead continued with its campaign of terror designed to induce fear (it’s there on the government website). Why 4 days after officially stating the virus was not a HCID did we get put under house arrest?
The dunning Kruger effect line doesn’t work.
The true conspiracy theorists here are the ones who believe the government and owned main stream media.
The same people would have said Dunning Kruger effect and conspiracy theory about anybody who warned of the Nazis as they rose to power.
If anybody who does believe the government advice and story then logically explain these points I have made here, using phrases such as ‘conspiracy theory’ and ‘dunning Kruger effect’ brings nothing to the debate.
July 20, 2020 at 09:30 #1494488I don’t know what you have been reading but preliminary figures are only available for 2019-2020 “flu” deaths:
https://www.contagionlive.com/news/how-deadly-was-the-2019-2020-flu-season
July 20, 2020 at 11:14 #1494501Feel free to logically explain to me why there has only been 371 flu deaths world wide this year when the average number of flu deaths is half a million. These are official stats taken from the WHO and can be searched for by yourself
Thanks, spent a few minutes doing that and even read a few words beneath the headlines
https://www.who.int/influenza/surveillance_monitoring/updates/latest_update_GIP_surveillance/en/
371 just indicates it’s the 371st instalment of the WHO’s ongoing Influenza Updates, which go back many years; it has zilch to do with flu deaths
This is the list of updates for 2020, with nice colourful maps showing rates of flu infection, which have indeed appeared to decline to below average for this time of year; for reasons given in the accompanying small print
https://www.who.int/influenza/surveillance_monitoring/updates/GIP_surveillance_2020_archives/en/
As for the compulsory wearing of face masks: I’ve no idea if they’re efficacious in reducing transmission, but it’s a minor imposition to request we wear them when in indoor public spaces. Why the song-and-dance about it?
If I were told to wear them because it protects me, I’d regard that as an infingement of personal liberty; but if told that wearing them is to protect others (which is the case) I’d regard that as a civil duty
As ever, too many are keen to blather on about ‘knowing their rights’ and too few keen to whisper about ‘knowing their responsiblities’
July 20, 2020 at 11:36 #1494506Thank you for correcting me on what that 371 figure meant as I am always open and embrace being corrected If I put any false information.
I also respect your right to chose not to explain why the virus travelled from east to west in the manner that it did and I also respect your right to chose not to explain why we were originally shown footage from China and told people were literally dropping dead in the streets and men in white suits were forcibly taking people from their homes.
In regards to wearing a face mask to protect others, the scientific evidence is not convincing that is the case.
In regards to civil duties and respecting others, did you know that road traffic accidents cause 1.35 million deaths worldwide every single year. I trust you are doing your Civil duty and Choosing to not drive a car or even to be a passenger on the roads as no matter how good you are at driving you may kill somebody’s grandma etc. I have no doubt that you don’t drive a car as if you did then You would surely be a hypocrite as you cannot hand pick the narratives that support you, correct me once again if I’m wrong.
Unrestricted breathing is a god given human right, driving a car isnt.
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