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  • #1487411
    homersimpson
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    Yes and I believe the PM Jacinda Arden and her cabinet have taken a 20% pay cut. I wonder if Boris et al will do the same :whistle:

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    Good to see you Golden seems a safer age ago we were discussing the excess yoof energies of souf London rock and rollers.

    I sometimes see BoJo’s sister who lives quite near and had occasion to speak twice to her last year but not in a political vein. She picks up her papers where I used to get my Racing post but now I only get the Cheltenham’s and Sundays. Haven’t seen her for dust this year although we share doctors.

    I think its highly unlikely he’ll edge down his salary Simpson – as I think his chief of staff Cummings would view it as seen as a patch for virus failings. Prior to his appointment Cummings has repeatedly advocated a Government with selected scientific officers at its base and advising policy. He has a deep understanding of various disciplines including physics, psychology and interestingly enough genetics and Vallance has written of the priority of the importance of sequencing the corona virus Genome as a way to beat it.

    Bojo, Hancock, Cummings, and Whittey all went into self isolation at roughly the same time and my suspicion is, they met have contracted it together, by meeting up in secret as the four horsemen.

    flatcapgambke…Dog News reports that the fact that as Charlie boy went down with it, this may well be proof he is the only non-reptilian humanoid in the Royal family. He knows his onions and has talked to plants so he may have some sort of triffid ancestry. He has green leanings but well, we know for sure now there is no way now he could join Camilla if she chose to swim the underwater length of Lochness – unless he had an aqua lung. :yes:

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    Kirsty Wark in briefs : blood clots rather than lung infection. CPAP machines (£500 rather than ventilators (10 to 50k) and more effective as was the experience of Northwick Park hospital that ran out of vents and substituted. Cytokine Storm rare reaction and massive inflammation – need a ventilator then. Oxygen levels good in London and elsewhere.

    Terrible news on Care home deaths…a catastrophe !

    but some good news…

    ” This is Captain Tom to Health Control
    I am stepping through my door
    and walking on my pathway
    Can I please get back inside ?
    Wanna count my notes then sing MY WAY ”

    flatcapgamble …Yes SIRee :yahoo: :rose:

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    I knew a ‘minor’ mover and shaker in my days in Blaenavon, gamble, he used to sift the coal.

    Captain Tom has done wonders, but should have a well earned rest now and give a chance to the more neglected charities.

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    Interesting to note that one month after the Cheltenham Festival the local NHS trust has recorded twice as many Covid-19 deaths, 107, than any other hospital trust in the South West

    Second is Great Western (Swindon) with 53.

    Somerset seems to be teh safest place with only 2 deaths

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    Well Tank it must be quite a pressure to have the world on your doorstep. I think he comes across as a very genuine honest and kind person, qualities often missing in the modern world.

    He wears his medals with pride – medals gained in ridding the world of a greater scourge than even the present that pre-selected who might live and die based on who their earth mother and lineage.

    I very much hope Tom will do it at his own pace and not do too many interviews. I heard yesterday that the NHS will use this money to build rest hubs for their staff and it is to be deposited in their general budget.

    If I am not mistaken I seem to have blown up the dynamite thread :wacko:

    flatcapgamble…No that would be me :heart:

    Sorry to have trumped you Paul and thanks for that and the media reported that some 500 reported symptoms and Parker-Bowles who is 80 ( Camilla’s ex) was of the opinion he contracted it there.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Somerset seems to be teh safest place with only 2 deaths

    Taunton has confirmed over 20 deaths as of yesterday according to the local rag on-line
    The trouble with Somerset is that we are the last to get anything, could be a late spread ready to kick off
    hopefully not

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    Interesting link Steve and this confirms Paul’s post and yes millions of Londoner’s were mistakenly using the tubes but this was not Sport and yes there were football matches and five Nations but Cheltenham was a festival over days and as he said, sentiment somewhat changed during it. I think it was that week that over 70’s were advised to lock themselves up.

    TAUNTON

    My sister lives in Taunton Nathan and she reports empty country roads where she much enjoys daily cycle rides with her husband and the general slow pace of life. I don’t know why you suggest Somerset gets everything last but that may be a serious advantage in this mad world we now live in.

    The press has sharp knives out for Bojo and Hancock this morning. Can anyone post up the full Sunday Times twitter feed of ‘ 38 days when Britain sleepwalked into disaster ‘ as giglio has done on the other talk channel.

    flatcapgamble…I wanna be one of the elite – just having some lizard on toast.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Wow
    gamble, Taunton is a small place, how long has your sister lived down here.? You must ask her if she needs her windows cleaned by a semi pro… :-)
    I have relatives in Reading who use to live in Somerset and they always tell me that Somerset is last to get anything, think they are talking fashion, music stuff

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    Well, nigh on 30 odd years a Tauntonian I’d say and moved from the smoke. Tone (roaring river) tun ( Celtic word for settlment. Whereas I always wanted to live free as a bird in a garden shed she wanted to be settled down so found her niche with the other 60,000 settlers in the capital of Somerset.

    flatcapgamble…I sometimes fancy a bitch down the track, but they all seem far too obsessed with their hair.

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    Taunton has confirmed over 20 deaths as of yesterday according to the local rag on-line

    Perhaps I should qualify the Somerset numbers by sayintg the two cases refer to “Somerset Partnership NHS Foundation Trust” only – so not sure how big an area that trust covers.

    My figures state Taunton and Somerset NHS Foundation Trust has 23 deaths

    #1487506
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    I still think that the Atletico/Liverpool game will result in more covid deaths than Cheltenham, given that thousands of football fans entered the country from a known virus hotspot, at a time when they weren’t allowed to go to games in their own country. It was actually mentioned in yesterdays daily briefing by a reporter from the Liverpool Echo [great paper that]. You only have to look at the mortality rate in the NW to see that something has gone badly wrong up there. However, racing is reviled by so many people in this country these days that the focus will always be on the Festival. Hope everyone on here is well, by the way.

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    “You only have to look at the mortality rate in the NW to see that something has gone badly wrong up there.”

    Had the virus been spread at a Manchester United match, the death rate in Devon would have spiked.

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    I think the Festival is bigger news Moe and is a countrywide thing. 4 days attendance( some indoors ) so 20 hours for contamination contra about 2 for footie.

    People focus on who contracted the virus but a lot pick it up asymptomatically and pass it on to others who either get symptoms or may in turn pass it on asymptomatically. I think I read in the New Scientist that 60% of Wuhan residents who tested positive had little or no symptoms.

    South China post reports that the virus has mutated into 30 various forms with the strongest forms in Europe ( Spain/Italy ) rather than U.S. They reported that some had a factor of 270 times the viral load of others _- so highly deadly.

    Racegoers may have picked up and passed on a weaker form without realising it. Of course weaker forms can kill us relics. I exclude your charming country self.

    flatcapgamble…I want to be buried at sea. I believe in mermaids rather than virgins. :good:

    #1487513
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    Do you go onto Dr John Campbells daily utube blog, gamble? He’s my absolute lifeline at the moment. I am worried that I’ll suffer from agoraphobia after all this; I’ve even stopped going on a daily walk because of joggers and cyclists whizzing past me! I do wish we could find out for certain how many people have had it asymptomatically.

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    Well Moe sounds like a very knowledgeable man I will have a gander.

    I don’t know why the Govt advice should not read…

    ‘ When out or self isolating or shielding vulnerables inside – keep at least one coffin length away from others ”

    It is that serious but in my opinion properly conducted social distancing is just as effective as lockdown and Germany have struck the right balance to wear a mask when out ‘inside shopping’ or on public transport.

    If someone approaches you on a narrow pavement and you are without a mask then either walk to the other side or in the road or if it’s your bank manager hold your breath until he’s passed. Years ago there was a knock on the door – it was my bank manager and he asked me please clear my overdraft immediately. I was amazed.

    A report from Colombia University New York analysed the course of the epidemic in 375 Chinese cities before strict containment measures were in place (10Jan- 23rd Jan) and concluded that 86% of cases were undocumented, that is asymptomatic with no or negligible symptoms or very mild ones. The researchers also looked at data from foreign nationals who were evacuated from the city of Wuhan and found a similar proportion of cases. Such undocumented cases are still contagious and the study found them to be the source of most of the virus’s spread before lockdown. Asymptomatics are only 55% as contagious as those with symptoms but concluded they had contributed to 79% of further infections. I relate this to Cheltenham and the Madrid travellers to Liverpool you highlighted.

    flatcapgamble.. A man inherited two crystal balls from his father and was feeling strange and confused. The first crystal ball advised him that if he went outside he would meet a strange man and to take care. The other ball was more specific and simply told him ” Stay inside son, you are the strange man. “

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