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He is a seriously good jockey but he DEFINITELY needs to cheer up!!
I think him being a miserable sod is something else I like about him!
Clare Balding did a good "at home" thing with him before the Derby today, and some of his monosyllabic stuff is clearly a bit of a mick take, but the rest of it is because he is a genuinely shy and serious chap which can come across as being a miserable git at times.
I like the fellow and hope these two classics are the first of many. They were two class rides from a class act.
I was impressed by the way he passed the post today: no waving of arms standing in the saddle look at me stuff, just a resolute poker-faced concentration on keeping himself and the horse balanced while he pulled up; that and a polite yet pleasingly perfunctory few words into Mr Persad’s microphone
Appears to be a dignified, self-effacing young gentleman who wisely would rather let his horses do the talking
A Lester-like jockey of yesteryear – good man
good ‘orth
A very good rider, but some of the wisest words I’ve ever been told are to speak as you find, so for me, I’ll have to go with discourteous, bordering on rude.
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A very good rider, but some of the wisest words I’ve ever been told are to speak as you find, so for me, I’ll have to go with discourteous, bordering on rude.
"Silence is golden" are perhaps equally wise. Do you have evidence for your adjectives?
I very much warm to his minimalist, no-nonsense style, not least because it goes against the lamentable transatlantic modern grain. This betokens strong character. His shyness also (as so often) masks great emotional intensity: witness his tears on the podium after today’s marvellous classic.
Ryan Moore is a very fine rider, the best all-round Jockey around today and I don’t have a problem with his attitude to inane questioning (usually having a microphone shoved up his nose seconds after a race by Rishi Persad…"so, Ryan, what was that like…") and if the interviewer shows a modicum of intellect and genuine knowledge of the sport then they will get a lot more out of Moore, as Nick Luck has shown when dealing with him.
One person who
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come across as obnoxious is Sir Michael Stoute. They way he spoke to Claire Balding after the Derby today being a typical example.
i wouldnt say buick is better than moore, but buick has a good finish. and i wouldnt say moores better than fallon. but he is good!!
I remember a couple of years ago when he rode Spanish Moon at Ascot, one of the other horses in the race broke down badly coming round the bend. When interviewed after his win Ryan was visibly upset and choked when he mentioned the other horse. That said a lot to me about the man and his attitude to the most important participants in this sport.
Not as good as Fallon? Maybe not yet. In 15 years time?
I caught the Derby Highlights programme in the early hours of the morning, and was amused by what he said in reply to the comment that the O’Brien horse had ‘set the race up for him’ remark. ‘Yes, but he wasn’t doing it for me, was he?’ was the reply with a chuckle. Only realised after the race how important it is for jockeys to win these high profile races, because my opinion of him changed now that he is a ‘Derby winning’ champion jockey. Dettori may be all sweetness and light, but that persona soon changes if he rides the wrong Godolphin horse in a race. We seem to have an expectation of public figures in this country that they have to be ‘nice’ with. I haven’t heard of Ryan Moore jocking off other jockeys [could be wrong], evading paying his tax or punching anyone. Really pleased for him this weekend.
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I haven’t heard of Ryan Moore jocking off other jockeys [could be wrong], evading paying his tax or punching anyone. Really pleased for him this weekend.
Well said! So what if he has little to say in response to bland media questioning? He’s a thoroughly honest, strong, hardworking professional touched by real intuition during most races, and that should be enough for the whining couch potatoes who crab him.
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I’ve dealt with dozens of top class jockeys over the years. Some impressed me with their professionalism, form knowledge, riding skill, work ethic, discretion or natural ability. Most fail to shine on all fronts. Ryan does. That is very rare.
Some like drink, drugs, fist fights and nightclubs. Some like gambling, loose sex and binge eating. Some are caught up in the surrounding glitz and glamour that goes hand in hand with racing. Many fail in some area of discipline. Ryan does not.
The one thing anyone here can accuse Ryan Moore of is thorough professionalism. I have watched him since he won a late season handicap for the Pipe yard many years ago. His progression since has continued to impress. Those judging Ryan harshly based on perceptions of his personality should spend a lot more time on their own flaws.
Ryan certainly spends a lot of time thinking about his own shortcomings on the racetrack. One thing I’d like to reassure Ryan of is that shyness is not a crime let alone a failing. Some would do well by following his example and saying nothing rather than extolling reams of worthless piffle.
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Now let’s have a discussion on a jockey who deserves every single black mark against his name. For the second day running Fallon has failed to show up on time for his engagements at a very important Gr1 meeting. Ryan Moore has managed to make it both times. Says it all really.
I’ve dealt with dozens of top class jockeys over the years. Some impressed me with their professionalism, form knowledge, riding skill, work ethic, discretion or natural ability. Most fail to shine on all fronts. Ryan does. That is very rare.
Some like drink, drugs, fist fights and nightclubs. Some like gambling, loose sex and binge eating. Some are caught up in the surrounding glitz and glamour that goes hand in hand with racing. Many fail in some area of discipline. Ryan does not.
The one thing anyone here can accuse Ryan Moore of is thorough professionalism. I have watched him since he won a late season handicap for the Pipe yard many years ago. His progression since has continued to impress. Those judging Ryan harshly based on perceptions of his personality should spend a lot more time on their own flaws.
Ryan certainly spends a lot of time thinking about his own shortcomings on the racetrack. One thing I’d like to reassure Ryan of is that shyness is not a crime let alone a failing. Some would do well by following his example and saying nothing rather than extolling reams of worthless piffle.
Excellent post Chiswickian, I concur. Jim McGrath may be a poor commentator but he’s one of the very few to talk sense on the subject this morning on ATR, although he found it hard to get through to Chapman’s brain.
I find it quite tiresome that every time racing presenters discuss Moore they have to accompany it with snide remarks about his lack of emotion, lack of smiling etc.Now let’s have a discussion on a jockey who deserves every single black mark against his name. For the second day running Fallon has failed to show up on time for his engagements at a very important Gr1 meeting. Ryan Moore has managed to make it both times. Says it all really.
Just because Fallon has been unpunctual does not mean he is deserving of ‘every single black mark against his name’.
Remember this is a man who has been accused of everything possible to be accused of – much of it being a load of $*!{
On the subject of Moore not being the most friendly. Who really cares once he is delivering the results?
Personality is not something a successful sportsman should need to have on their CV.
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Jim McGrath may be a poor commentator but he’s one of the very few to talk sense on the subject this morning on ATR, although he found it hard to get through to Chapman’s brain.
I find it quite tiresome that every time racing presenters discuss Moore they have to accompany it with snide remarks about his lack of emotion, lack of smiling etc.Again, well put. One of Matt Chapman’s more exasperating traits is acting as if everyone should behave like him, by showing child-like emotional incontinence at every tiny twist and turn. I thought McGrath and his fellow journalist put him pleasantly but firmly in his place on this morning’s excellent show.
I agree with Chiswickian.
In my view Fallon is in no way as professional in his attitude and application to his trade, compared to Moore.
Whilst not dismissing his undoubted skills, he has repeatedly let himself and his employers down throughout his career. In my opinion this will continue and sadly Mr Cumani will suffer in due course.
Trainers may turn a blind eye to these failings when a jockey is at the top of his game, but in my view Fallon is a fading star, who will merely become more of a liability with timeBallydoyle should move Heaven and Earth for Ryan Moore.
This guy is so superior to every other rider in Europe. I thought his ride on Master of Hounds was exceptional as was his ride on other Coolmore horses through the years. I know Moore has a good job at Stoute but surely they could get him over on Sundays to ride and maybe Thurs evenings. I know Champion Jockey is important to him but surely Big races are more important to him now that he has reached a certain level.
Any opinions?
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