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  • #349692
    Anonymous
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    re. Moore and

    Recital

    . It was a curious ride. Only time I saw a horse come from so far back to win at Leopardstown was when Murtagh got

    Soviet Song

    up to beat

    Attraction

    in the 2004 Matron Stakes. And in Murtagh’s own words:

    "I was too far out of my ground. The mare got me out of jail that day."

    And

    Recital

    is no

    Soviet Song

    . We didn’t see the Derby winner in today’s

    Ballysax

    .

    #349700
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    Interesting piece on James Willoughnby’s blog re- today’s ride on Recital and Ballydoyle tactics in general.

    http://thefiguresneverlie.blogspot.com/2011/04/deeper-truth-of-confused-recital.html

    #349717
    Anonymous
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    Thanks for that, Corm. Intriguing to find Willoughby articulating many of the good points already made in posts on this (and the other Ballydoyle) thread. His thesis seems to me a very strong one.

    #349721
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    I wonder whether Ballydoyle riding tactics (in big races at any rate) would be down to O’Brien alone. You’d expect, with so much at stake, that Coolmore might have a say?

    #349726
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    Could someone please tell me where all the fuss is coming from? Ryan Moore was capable of landing last years Derby of such tactics, he didn’t have the horse under him today who never let himself down on the ground and possibly won’t stay a Derby trip.

    Awful head carridge, you see a promising burst through Adilapour, Mawakeef and then comes upside Rich Tapestry but fails to assert past him. You ask yourself, if Recital could have sustained that burst throug horses around the bend to around half a furlong from home he’d be 2l up, he didn’t and couldn’t sustain it for what ever reasons, ground? but a horse possibly to stay on the side of caution.

    #349730
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    Interesting piece on James Willoughnby’s blog re- today’s ride on Recital and Ballydoyle tactics in general.

    http://thefiguresneverlie.blogspot.com/2011/04/deeper-truth-of-confused-recital.html

    While James Willoughby may have a point about Ballydoyle’s pace tactics generally, his belief that every question can be answered by the stopwatch is naive, if not altogether misleading.
    Soldier Of Fortune lacked a change of gear and needed every inch of a strongly run 12f, or softened ground, to have any chance at the very top level, and the sharp Santa Anita circuit on firm ground was never going to play to his strengths. The stable did everything they could to alleviate his ahortcomings by setting a strong pace, and the horse wouldn’t have finished any nearer in the circumstances (ran within 8lb of his best ever RPR – achieved on soft ground at the Curragh) no matter how ridden.
    Septimus returned injured in the Melbourne Cup, and Ballydoyle certainly screwed up the pace, but that was its stop/go nature rather than any "supramaximal effort", as both viewing of the race, and sectionals, showed afterwards.
    Today’s Ballysax was never high on Recital’s agenda (witness the one tap he got with the whip in the closing stages) and, as a horse who will almost certainly need a stiffer test to show his best anyway, education was far more important than bottoming the horse to win a lowly gp3, so why not employ one of racing’s better jockeys as tutor? Ryan Moore probably did everything asked today but, like Coolmore, he probably understands there is much more to a horse’s career than the setting of fractions.

    #349787
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    I fear I will never understand the rule about not using the race as an opportunity to train a horse.Does it only apply to permit holders who don’t have the facilities that Coolmore has?In other words if you don’t need the use of the race to gallop you can use it for gallops but if you do need it you can’t?

    #19807
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    Coolmore: Cut Ryan Moore

    Costing you a fortune, his mind boggling horrible ride on So You Think and a more inept again to solidify champion 2yr old status on Power he murders the horse.

    Can’t afford many more of them mistakes, BIG NO NO!!!!!!!. We know Tabor likes Moore but Magnier will not be impressed with this at all!

    #373456
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    What did Moore do wrong Ruby?

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    #373458
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Missed the Break
    Got caught on the rails
    Waited to long if he was planning to move around horses’s
    if your going to ride like that you have to wait for the gap and he didn’t

    Best Horse lost…Coolmore seething. Dire ride

    #373459
    andyod
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    Poison Chalice.Keep away from Ballydoyle.

    #373466
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    Should have gave it to Joseph O Brien :wink:

    #373473
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    He still doesn’t look race fit, seemed very untidy trying to galvanize Power and by then the winner had flown.

    #373474
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    edit

    #373475
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    Could it be something to do with the horse?

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    #373485
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    Beautiful ride on

    Wading

    in the

    Rockfel

    for the Coolmore team. What a difference an hour makes!

    I expressed beforehand that, given the nonsense of having the

    Fillies Mile

    and

    Cheveley Park

    on the same day and same card, the

    Rockfel

    would take on a new significance. I suspect it’s headed for Group 1 status, with the

    Fillies Mile

    and

    Middle Park

    demoted to Group 2 as a result of the messed-up pattern schedule.

    Wading

    ‘s time was faster than the

    Dewhurst

    winner’s, despite what looked a far from breakneck pace, and an easy win. This was much the best 2yo race of the day, and Moore rode the filly nicely. Get on for the

    Oaks

    !

    #373489
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    Backed Wading for both Guineas and Oaks.

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