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Backed Wading for both Guineas and Oaks.
I’m with you on this one,
Ginger
. The value’s there. Lovely performance.
Wading was a desperately impressive performance. I suspect a Oaks Filly but wouldn’t be too far out of her depth in the Guineas either.
Coolmore look to have a much stronger than usual team of Fillie’s, awaiting Was reapperance and the recent Kissing.
The difference in the ride, Moore grabbed hold of Wading going into the dip, whereas he let Power run downhill and become slightly unbalanced. Whether it made a difference between 1st and 2nd its hard to tell, but the extra time he needed to gather Power meant he had to go round horses rather than have the opportunity to come between them.
As Pat Eddery always said the dip is where most races are won and lost on the Rowley Mile.Once they hit the rising ground she really grabbed out and reached for the ground. She should have quite a big more growing over the Winter. Something like the Oaks Trial at York is what i be looking at.
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Ryan Moore said to Nick Luck:
"Bad Dewhurst, Good Rockfel"
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The difference in the ride, Moore grabbed hold of Wading going into the dip, whereas he let Power run downhill and become slightly unbalanced. Whether it made a difference between 1st and 2nd its hard to tell, but the extra time he needed to gather Power meant he had to go round horses rather than have the opportunity to come between them.
As Pat Eddery always said the dip is where most races are won and lost on the Rowley Mile."
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Doubt the unbalanced had anything to do with Ryan. Power was also under firm riding some way out, didn’t have the pace at a vital time. Yes, wasunlucky
in that having been outpaced, came through horses to almost get up. But less so than Casper Netcher in the Middle Park.
Value Is EverythingIt certainly wasn’t a ride that you’d just axe a jockey for imo.
The horse, for whatever reason, and I’ll let others debate that, was unbalanced in the dip and stayed on up the hill. While Power’s a horse to be appreciated for his consistency this year, a horse with outstanding ability probably gets the margin down to a head or less.
I expressed beforehand that, given the nonsense of having the Fillies Mile and Cheveley Park on the same day and same card, the Rockfel would take on a new significance. I suspect it’s headed for Group 1 status, with the Fillies Mile and Middle Park demoted to Group 2 as a result of the messed-up pattern schedule.
Correct judgement on the Rockfel.
They won’t downgrade the races – Phil Smith will fiddle the figures better than MP’s once fiddled their expenses.
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They won’t downgrade the races – Phil Smith will fiddle the figures better than MP’s once fiddled their expenses.
I hope you’re wrong on that! Certainly it was an irony this afternoon that the two
least
interesting/stirring races on the card were the 2yo Group 1 races. They’d have made one goodish contest between them, no better than that: and although of course we can’t judge on one day’s running, at first sight it does look as if running the two races back-to-back has back-fired badly.
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Cesarewitch
, contrariwise, was a fantastic spectacle. This was what Racing is about. No marketing hype, no rock musak in the winner’s enclosure, just really warm and heartfelt applause from a knowledgeable crowd who’d seen a remarkable spectacle and Dettori’s first win in the race. It obviously meant a lot to him too.
Draw your own conclusions, Mr Street.
Looks like Coolmore could be getting Ryan Moore according to CL of the BBC.
Guess i can see how he would leave Stoute and young AOB getting to big
Wouldn’t be that surprising now.
Stoutey has had two poor years numerically.
Value Is EverythingIts not even completely the numbers its the complete lack of anything coming thru the Stoute Ranks which is very worrying. I can’t name a decent 2yr old he has? or even potentially good.
Worrying times for Stoute i think.
Didn’t think the ride was that bad, looked to me as if Power wasn’t totally comfortable at Newmarket.
The best model could be Moore rides for Ballydoyle on Sunday’s and when the horses run in England, leaving him to persue othr rides during the week and not having to move to Ireland. Also as already mentioned, there looks to be a lack of top horses at Stoute’s yard at present).
Interesting to see the number of riders riding for Ballydoyle recently, particularly the last at the Curragh tomorrow, where Shane Foley and Gary Carroll ride.
I’m sure that Moore could ride as stable jockey really well for Coolmore / AOB, and also ride when he wants in England.
Eddery, who was the last superstar jockey, managed to juggle even more demands when riding for MVOB etc, and if memory serves even managed to be Irish champion jockey when still riding in England.
I know that there ae a few individuals on this forum who want to discredit the Eddery role in racing history, but facts are facts.
No disrespect to Hanagan / Fallon / de Sousa, but it would be good for the game, in my view, to have a great jockey again, rather than a media friendly, impersonation like Dettori.
Ready to be criticised for this view, but like to hear yours.
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It took Power all day to get on top on appreciably softer ground at the Curragh, and Seamie Heffereman said at the time the horse needed further, so Ryan Moore hardly had the horse ideally placed 2 out, and that had much more effect on his chances than any problems caused by the horse, imo.
I’m not one for slagging jockeys off, and I didn’t have a bet in the race, but can’t help thinking this result might well have been different, had Seamie H. still been in the plate.Is that the same Seamie H who was on So You Think in the Arc? Given hindsight I’m sure Seamie would ride Longchamp differently and same goes for Moore at Newmarket. Especially with a pace bias like there was today Reet.
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Ginger
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