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Your loyalty to your fellow countrymen is commendable….I thought you would have got fed up of backing Willie Mullins chasers over here with his abysmal record….especially taking on one so much better!
You’ve probably played that scenario out in your head countless times…..and then woken up!
Good luck my man..
Your loyalty to your fellow countrymen is commendable….I thought you would have got fed up of backing Willie Mullins chasers over here with his abysmal record….especially taking on one so much better!
We shall see
Having previously backed Don Poli to win any race, I’ve backed him straight up for the RSA this morning at 5/1. The prospect of Coneygree and Kings Palace going at it up front is very appealing as a Don Poli backer and the way he went away from Apache Stronghold really stood out as a top class performance. I don’t buy it that he’s an out and out stayer and feel he probably has more speed than he lets on, I think he and Apache quickened away from the opposition at Christmas and both horses have a lot of class. He gets three miles very well but I think it’s now unlikely he’ll go for the four miler, with Wounded Warrior looking a live candidate for the owners in that race. As well as backing Don Poli for the RSA, I’ve doubled him with Wounded Warrior for the NH Chase, 5/1 and 8/1. When punters and bookies realise that this is the way they are being aimed (at least I think and hope this is where they’re being aimed) the price on Wounded Warrior in particular will surely shorten, as Don Poli will be out of the way.
The Don Poli Wounded Warrior double looks sunk already with Meade suggesting after Very Wood’s win today that he is the more likely candidate for the NH Chase, with Wounded Warrior going the RSA route.
Just having a look at this today. I can see Kings Palace and Coneygree cutting each other’s throats up front and something picking them off late on. What that is, I’m not sure.
Coneygree has been infinitely more impressive than Kings Palace but the trends boys (which I am one) will point to the fact that no Feltham winner has followed up in the RSA. This is usually because the RSA becomes a real slog compared to the Feltham – which has been won by speedier horses over the years. This time it’s different – Coneygree looks an absolute bull of a horse, and I can see him running a huge race (if he swerves the Gold Cup).
As for something to stay on late? Not sure. The Young Master looks a stout stayer – but he is only 6 and hasn’t run since the turn of the year (that’ll be the trends side of me rearing its ugly head again). Don Poli would be a danger, but the same applies to him also. Apache Stronghold looks taylor made for this, but sadly connections look to be heading for the JLT.
I’ve backed If In Doubt and Apache Jack at big prices on Betfair. Both are hopefully definite runners, and I think that they will outrun their odds. Mr McCoy will hopefully be on the former, and the latter ran well in the Albert Bartlett (generally a decent guide to the RSA) last year.
I think The Young Master is the best bet of the meeting, let alone the day. Outstanding form, ive not found a fault with it. Sound Investment today boosted the form again.
I am a trend boy so I have dismissed Coneygree which might be foolish. I am down to 3 in this race – Kings Palace, Southfield Theatre or If in doubt. I will probably make my decision on the day.
Kings Palace was well beaten when coming down in a very poor Albert Bartlett last year. Can’t see him being in the first three, in my opinion he bullies inferior opposition in small fields and will get found out at the festival this year, like he did last year.
On form Don Poli is the one to beat, and with Coneygree going to the Gold cup more than likely, it looks to be his for the taking.Trends and stats are laughable….you can manipulate any stat or trend to suit your own argument!
The one about no Feltham winner following up is a joke really…out of the last ten years, three didn’t even go to Cheltenham…..out of the other seven there’s been a 2nd, two 3rds and a 4th, while two who placed in the Feltham (Trabolgan & Bobs Worth) went on to win it….so hardly the worst race in the world….add to that two of them went straight to Cheltenham from Kempton, then how does any of that rule out the chances of Coneygree?
It’s just like pointing to the fact that every one of the last 10 winners of this had raced at least once in a grade 1 or grade 2 chase before this….on that basis you can scrub both Kings Palace and The Young Master who have only ran in Novice events and Handicaps respectively..
Best way to look is on visual performances and form already in the book….that for me makes Coneygree the banker of the meeting should he line up in this…..Am much more hopeful with seeing current going and predicted weather forecast that he will run in this…
Coneygree will be run off his feet by any of the first five in the GC betting. Its too big an ask for a young chaser. The RSA would be the better choice of target
I don’t personally think he would RD…
Favourite maybe….I don’t see anything else in the Gold Cup he should have any sleepless nights over….he’s right there on ratings, with potentially more to come…he’s on the upgrade…in the form of his life (which cant be said about a lot of them) jumps for fun…gallops on relentlessly…
Having said that, I agree that RSA would be the better choice this year…
Patrick Mullins 3 hours ago when asked where Don Poli would run……wishful thinking on riding it maybe?
“I hope in the NH Chase but we will have to talk to Gigginstown. The easier race is the NH race as the RSA looks very hot this year.”
Patrick Mullins 3 hours ago when asked where Don Poli would run……wishful thinking on riding it maybe?
“I hope in the NH Chase but we will have to talk to Gigginstown. The easier race is the NH race as the RSA looks very hot this year.”
All the word has been that Patrick will be on Perfect Gentleman in the four miler, would think those comments a last ditch attempt to improve his ride in that race. Think it’s long odds on Don Poli runs in the RSA.
Even if Don Poli was to run in the four miler, I’m sure Gigginstown would want Jamie Codd on board, and that’s no longer an option given he’s been booked to ride Cause Of Causes.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Zamorston wrote:</div>
Patrick Mullins 3 hours ago when asked where Don Poli would run……wishful thinking on riding it maybe?“I hope in the NH Chase but we will have to talk to Gigginstown. The easier race is the NH race as the RSA looks very hot this year.”
All the word has been that Patrick will be on Perfect Gentleman in the four miler, would think those comments a last ditch attempt to improve his ride in that race. Think it’s long odds on Don Poli runs in the RSA.
Even if Don Poli was to run in the four miler, I’m sure Gigginstown would want Jamie Codd on board, and that’s no longer an option given he’s been booked to ride Cause Of Causes.
Do you not think they are waiting on where Coneygree goes and the weather? I would have thought Coneygree will go RSA and the ground will continue to dry out. Both factors which might push Don Poli (and Valseur Lido?) towards the longer race. He might still go RSA but I suspect it isn’t yet a done deal.
When you have the best (favourite’s) chance in the RSA, you don’t go for the 4 miler.
Value Is Everything<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>thehorsesmouth wrote:</div>
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Zamorston wrote:</div>
Patrick Mullins 3 hours ago when asked where Don Poli would run……wishful thinking on riding it maybe?“I hope in the NH Chase but we will have to talk to Gigginstown. The easier race is the NH race as the RSA looks very hot this year.”
All the word has been that Patrick will be on Perfect Gentleman in the four miler, would think those comments a last ditch attempt to improve his ride in that race. Think it’s long odds on Don Poli runs in the RSA.
Even if Don Poli was to run in the four miler, I’m sure Gigginstown would want Jamie Codd on board, and that’s no longer an option given he’s been booked to ride Cause Of Causes.
Do you not think they are waiting on where Coneygree goes and the weather? I would have thought Coneygree will go RSA and the ground will continue to dry out. Both factors which might push Don Poli (and Valseur Lido?) towards the longer race. He might still go RSA but I suspect it isn’t yet a done deal.
I don’t think it has anything to do with where Coneygree goes personally. I think it’s 100% because Mullins doesn’t want to have to take on Vautour with Valseur Lido, and would rather run the latter in the RSA with Don Poli in the NH Chase, thus giving him a strong contender in each novice chase.
Can’t see it happening though, as it would likely leave Gigginstown with two runners in the RSA (Valseur Lido & Very Wood/Wounded Warrior) and two in the NH Chase (Don Poli and the other Meade hores), and nothing in the JLT. This would seem crazy to me given Valseur Lido has looked good at 2.5m and Don Poli has looked good at 2.5m and 3m.
The fact Coneygree is in the race may actually help Don Poli but if he can’t beat the Bradstock horse I wouldn’t give Valseur Lido much hope of doing so. Don Poli in a different league to Valseur Lido imo.
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<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>thehorsesmouth wrote:</div>
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Zamorston wrote:</div>
Patrick Mullins 3 hours ago when asked where Don Poli would run……wishful thinking on riding it maybe?“I hope in the NH Chase but we will have to talk to Gigginstown. The easier race is the NH race as the RSA looks very hot this year.”
All the word has been that Patrick will be on Perfect Gentleman in the four miler, would think those comments a last ditch attempt to improve his ride in that race. Think it’s long odds on Don Poli runs in the RSA.
Even if Don Poli was to run in the four miler, I’m sure Gigginstown would want Jamie Codd on board, and that’s no longer an option given he’s been booked to ride Cause Of Causes.
Do you not think they are waiting on where Coneygree goes and the weather? I would have thought Coneygree will go RSA and the ground will continue to dry out. Both factors which might push Don Poli (and Valseur Lido?) towards the longer race. He might still go RSA but I suspect it isn’t yet a done deal.
I don’t think it has anything to do with where Coneygree goes personally. I think it’s 100% because Mullins doesn’t want to have to take on Vautour with Valseur Lido, and would rather run the latter in the RSA with Don Poli in the NH Chase, thus giving him a strong contender in each novice chase.
Can’t see it happening though, as it would likely leave Gigginstown with two runners in the RSA (Valseur Lido & Very Wood/Wounded Warrior) and two in the NH Chase (Don Poli and the other Meade hores), and nothing in the JLT. This would seem crazy to me given Valseur Lido has looked good at 2.5m and Don Poli has looked good at 2.5m and 3m.
The fact Coneygree is in the race may actually help Don Poli but if he can’t beat the Bradstock horse I wouldn’t give Valseur Lido much hope of doing so. Don Poli in a different league to Valseur Lido imo.
Most of Don Poli’s form has been on soft/heavy. Yes, he did win at last year’s Festival on quicker ground but a reproduction of that performance is unlikely to be good enough in the RSA. He doesn’t really have much form at the shorter distance and it looked as if he needed all of the trip and testing ground to beat what might be a suspect stayer last time. Yes, there is a possibility he may be very good but on the limited evidence he looks far from bombproof at the current 5/2.
Don Poli has very solid looking form. The ground might be the only issue but I think what he has achieved is miles ahead of anything King’s Palace has done.
Nothing that ran behind Kings Palace in his first two races this season has won and he landed a farce of a match at 2/13 Fav next time. I just can’t have him.
At the odds I have to side with Coneygree at twice the odds of Don Poli (5/1)
I think he’s been hyped up for the Gold Cup but he could take the catching in the RSA. Sense should prevail and see him run here.
If both the others turn up I see Kings Palace as a big lay on the day.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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