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    davidjohnson
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    The Dr Fremantle lines suggests there is little between between Bronze Cannon and All The Aces. At 4/1 v 7/1, I’m going to have to back Jarvis’. Bronze Cannon’s latest handicap form has taken a couple of pretty bad knocks this week.

    #169474
    Salselon
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    Bolger’s comment about AntePost betting was fantastic. :D

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    Nice to see Godolphin have a winner like that. Competition is everything!

    Lol. I don’t think Godolphin are any competition at all to Coolmore.

    Frankie irritates me, goes over the top and both Channels (BBC and ATR) are all over him at the moment. :roll:

    #169480
    Salselon
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    Best big race jockey there is.

    Ryan Moore take note

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    Best big race jockey there is.

    Ryan Moore take note

    Better than Johnny Murtagh / Mick Kinane? I’d have to disagree strongly.

    Dettori has few peers race riding from the front but overall he’s nothing like as good as the media make out IMO.

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    Avatar photoaaronizneez
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    Best big race jockey there is.

    Ryan Moore take note

    To be fair to Moore he asked for his horses effort coming in to the straight so the horse had three(?) furlongs to get up. Dettori rode a fine race dictating what looked like a slowish pace and then kicking for home off the bend. Off a quicker pace I’m pretty sure the second and fourth would finish in front of him but fair play to Frankie for pinching it today.

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    LetsGetRacing
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    I don’t think either Ryan Moore or Jimmy Fortune will look upon that race as one of their finest moments.

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    batman
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    I don’t think either Ryan Moore or Jimmy Fortune will look upon that race as one of their finest moments.

    just about to say that what was moore doing he had it won hed he gone sooner as for fortune total cockup

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    Best big race jockey there is.

    Ryan Moore take note

    To be fair to Moore he asked for his horses effort coming in to the straight so the horse had three(?) furlongs to get up. Dettori rode a fine race dictating what looked like a slowish pace and then kicking for home off the bend. Off a quicker pace I’m pretty sure the second and fourth would finish in front of him but fair play to Frankie for pinching it today.

    I’d like to see the sectionals but I agree with you that Frankie stole it. Hebridean and City Leader were held up early and they finished out the back, Campanologist made the running and won the race so it indicates strongly a steadily run race.

    In light of that Conduit I think has run a mighty race coming from slightly off the pace. I thought that horse was a massive lay today up in class but he proved he belongs at this higher level.

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    Best big race jockey there is.

    Ryan Moore take note

    Better than Johnny Murtagh / Mick Kinane? I’d have to disagree strongly.

    Dettori has few peers race riding from the front but overall he’s nothing like as good as the media make out IMO.

    Murtagh is probably as good as ever at the moment but he does have the ammunition and a little bit of help from others :wink:

    As for Mick Kinane I think his best days are behind him , a personal viewpoint you understand.

    Good jockeys win on horses that shouldn’t necessarily win and I think we have just seen an example of that. IMVHO of course.

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    I hold my hand up, i’ve wondered whether Frankie still has it, but it’s rides like that that make me reconsider my position. He might have stole it Ian, but it’s still better getting a winner like that than having another horse that travels well but finds nothing like some of the godolphin horses have lately. I’m looking forward to Frankies oher rides of the day and if Nahoodh shows her Guineas for she has a good squeak. Also the godolphin horses in the handicaps look to have a good chance aswell.

    All the best godolphin!

    ps, the bookies will of course take a bit of a hammering if frankie rides anymore winners, and I love it when they feel pain.

    Its a horse like Nahoodh that I’d worry about Frankie on. He won’t be dictating the pace on this filly and I’m never a fan of Dettori on a hold up horse and I expect the filly to be held up.

    This is a race (Coronation) that could be won by jockeyship IMO. With Spencer on Spacious possibly coming through horses and Fortune (not my favourite jockey) possibly doing the same on Infallible it’s possible that Manning could steal this race on Lush Lashes if he rides her handily. The filly gets ten furlongs well so I wouldn’t be surprised if Manning makes the running if there’s no real pace on.

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    Salselon
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    The thing about Frankie is he is the only jockey still riding that can win a top class race on horses he shouldn’t; that is invaluable.

    Ps – I’m not interested in discussing Frankie’s personality or what the media think of him.

    Pps – Ryan Moore, fine jocket though he is, still has a lot to learn in riding big races. And I’m not so much referring to today.

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    Well I didn’t expect Dettori to make the running on Nahoodh, that surprised me but I got it right with Lush Lashes :), given a good ride as there was enough pace early on .

    Infallible has run a cracker after drifting like a barge, doesn’t quite get home for me will be better when dropped in trip. Spacious found little, maybe needs ten furlongs? Looked short of speed.

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    Peruvian Chief
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    Spacious didn’t look tapped for toe in the Guineas.

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    Trainer not in form Ian, they’ve completley reversed the guineas form.

    That may be the reason mate. I was a little disappointed with Spacious nonetheless, expected a better effort than that.

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    ……….. Though watching the replay she hasn’t run all that badly, just didn’t really quicken.

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    andyod
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    How far before we reach the bottom?.Godolfin now going for the handicaps. Look out Dermot.

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