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Well he managed to fool 70% of them over Brexit. Wasn’t Brexit all about a dislike for ‘johnny foreigner’ and bringing back control of borders? Perhaps those who inflicted it upon the rest might actually wake up to the idea it’s been a disaster. Shame that Starmer is fightened to even talk about reversing it.
———————————I voted Remain – even campaigned for it in my own way on here. But No, Brexit was not a dislike of Johnny Foreigner, Stilvi. It was supposedly to take back control. Which I do have some sympathy for.
At the time of the referendum the EU was getting more and more federalist. If you don’t like Brexit, don’t blame the Torries or even Farage, blame Guy Verhofstadt for (at that time) his Federalist European agenda… And the Labour Party who refused to join the same Remain platform of David Cameron. If looking at Corbyn’s stated views before the Brexit campaign started, it is clear he was all in favour of Brexit. By Labour / Corbyn not campaigning with Cameron it made some (enough to make the difference of winning and losing) vote Brexit. Purely as a vote against the Conservative leader or against the establishment.
The EU have since seen Federalism threaten to break them apart, so have to some degree stepped back from Federalism. Had we had the EU as it is now and a Labour Party that was obviously for Remain (how many Remain speeches did you hear from Corbyn?)… I don’t believe Brexit would have happened.
I wish we could take every immigrant that wants to come to England, but we can’t. We have not got the room. We can not be forced to take as many immigrants as France and other EU countries, because we have far more people per square mile than they do.
If you think “The Boats” mean it would’ve been better under Brexit. Look at how Greece, Italy and Southern Medditeranean European countries are doing with boats coming over from Africa. Thankfully the boat problem did not exist the last time Labour were in power, otherwise we’d have no green space left.
Value Is Everything“Thankfully the boat problem did not exist the last time Labour were in power, otherwise we’d have no green space left.”
Scaremongering. That’s all the Tories have got.
Notso toeing the party line this morning: turn every question into scaremongering about Labour.
Still another four weeks of this to go. 😴
Absolutely disgraceful level of coverage being given by the BBC to this private company masquerading as a political party.
Yet you hear sod all about the Greens who had the same number of MPs at the end of the last Parliament, and theirs was actually elected.
It always makes me laugh when you hear rightwing loons criticising the BBC for being biased towards Labour.
The director general, Tim Davie, twice stood as a Conservative candidate. Their new lead presenter on the flagship Today programme is the right-leaning Emma Barnett.
Leftwing? Yeah, right.
There’s also Tory Robbie Gibb, I’m sure the list goes on. Does anyone seriously think Kuenssberg is anything other than a Tory for example?
You are far too understanding Ginger. You honestly believe that those with a racist leaning didn’t champion Brexit? ‘Take back control’ in itself sounds like some sort of throwback to the days of the Empire.
Please don’t bring back memories of Corbyn. He was a total disaster. Two things decided the last election – the con job that was Brexit, and the negativity surrounding Corbyn. It’s a miracle Labour have turned it around, with a little help buffoon Boris, and the right wing loons that pollute the Tory party.
As someone who doesn’t welcome landslide victories I would have liked the Tories to have been more worthy of votes but they are not. Labour supporters ought to be lauding Farage for boosting the potential majority.
I wouldn’t give Farage credit for anything. Labour were going to win without his ‘help’.
Just listening to the Liberals promising free adult social care which sounds great. It’s a massive problem area, but we know a party who isn’t going to be elected can promise virtually anything, and even if it is free the care is only as good as the person providing the care.
Milk shake thrown over Farage again. What a surprise.
Yvette Cooper describes it as a ‘disgraceful assault’. Says everything about Starmer’s Labour. Ridiculous overreaction.
However much of a stain on politics NF is, throwing stuff at him isn’t on. It just helps feed his narrative that everyone’s against him. You only need to place his ‘policies’ under the slightest scrutiny and he’ll fall to bits.
That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole thing was set up.
It was a milkshake, not a hand grenade. Less dangerous than his diet of fags and booze he so likes to push. Who was it who was saying only 24 hours earlier how boring the election campaign had been?
What policies? He’s always been a one-trick opportunist. None of the media even try to rip him to pieces so I understand how people might be frustrated that he has turned up lording the airwaves again.
Publicity stunt.
Any self respecting protester would have thrown cow **** over him.I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysI’m confused are you saying Reform engineered this to make people feel sorry for Farage?
Hmmm, so it is ok to throw stuff at Farage, Stilvi.
When this liquid landed Farage wasn’t to know what it was.
In the last 10 years corrosive liquid has been thrown at people.
Seem to remember the brother of the North Korean leader died from stuff being thrown at him.Yyvette Cooper is right.
If people defend someone throwing stuff at one politician, then other nutters will do the same at other politicians. Diane Abbott next then is it?Value Is EverythingWhy don’t you all just relax………
The election has been won.
My bet has been won.
Backed Labour to win most seats @ 2.1, when Boris was in the process of sinking the blue ship.
Labour are now 1.03.Liberals are nowadays just as left wing if not further to the left than Labour. So even if Labour fall short of a majority, any Lib Lab pact will be the same as Labour having a majority anyway.
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