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  • #1630128
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    To much has gone wrong Glad , Labour just need to keep pointing out what’s going wrong

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    #1630134
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    Gladiateur wrote,
    “ wouldn’t put it beyond the media to do a hatchet job on Starmer and Labour in order to get their beloved Tories back in again. In fact, I’ve already backed the Conservatives to win the most seats at the next general election”.

    I remember during the 2017 election where May called one early just to gain more seats she hoped.

    About a week or two before voting day, as the news started with it’s opening headline music, the BBC showed May turning up at a theatre for campaigning, having to go round the back and was met by a solitary loud boo. Then showed Corbyn turning up at an outside gathering where there looked to be thousands and all singing to the tune “oh Jeremy Corbyn (repeat)…”.

    Just that short piece from the BBC of literally seconds would have influenced people where many like sheep like to go for what seems like the most popular choice.
    That election finished much closer than it should have been, mainly due to the ‘BBC effect’.

    They don’t report anymore, they provide their view, their storytelling, their agenda.

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    This actually happened though. It was FACT.

    Unlike reporting in the Tory rags where they just make stuff up.

    I remember the Sun headline in 1992 telling the last one to turn out the light if Kinnock was made PM.

    #1630205
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    You think that the BBC is ‘influencing elections’ and a few seconds of the 6 o’clock News is your evidence? You’ll have to do a bit better than that.

    If you saw through their ‘cunning plan’ then what makes you think others didn’t? Or are you calling large parts of the electorate too thick to think for themselves?

    #1630211
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    The Shy Tory vote in England is always underestimated. The Scots Indy campaign is counting on it

    #1630223
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    Not thick Richard, but fickle and easily swayed.

    #1630233
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    It’s human nature to feel one’s own political position is fair and balanced hence any public service broadcaster should simply mirror what we personally think in their approach.

    And when the public service broadcaster doesn’t do that we think they are biased against our position.

    Social media is full of Tories who think the BBC is pro-Labour and it is also full of Labour voters who think the BBC is pro-Tory.

    And all the supporters of other Parties think the BBC gives them insufficient airtime.

    The fact virtually no political activist feels the BBC is on their side illustrates just how impartial the BBC is overall.

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    #1630234
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    I think you,ll find if they stay towards the middle even the Murdoch redtops will back Labour if it looks like there going to win , they def don’t want to be seen to be backing the losing horse

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    #1630235
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    100% HDLG – they naturally support the Tories but, if the Tories mess up and Labour’s leader is moderate, they have in the past – and I think will in the future – back Labour.

    The Sun ultimately backed Blair in 1997 and I think ultimately they will back Starmer in 2024.

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    #1630236
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    Not sure that newspapers have the same influence today, not so many people buy them, including me.

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    #1630237
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    I think the MSM influence is now split across the hard copies of newspapers sold (dwindling as you say) and online, Purwell.

    Any political party would still rather have MSM support than not and a lot of the “influencing” is on social media nowadays, hence the rise of the truly nauseating term: “influencer.”

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    #1630242
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    ‘Not thick Richard, but fickle and easily swayed.’

    For once we agree. But surely the same must apply to those who get their news from elsewhere, not just the BBC. Whatever you think of the BBC’s position, it is far less partisan than any newspaper most of which act as propaganda outlets rather than sources of news. That’s before you get started with social media which makes the press look like a bastion of truth and balanced reporting.

    #1630243
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    21st century snake oil salesmen!

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    #1630504
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    Picking up on Sunak’s maths idea:

    Sky News host Anna Botting tweeted this question from her 10 year old daughter’s maths homework, pleading for help at 3.15am:

    “There are 5 times as may pens in box A than box B.

    Tom moves 76 pens from box A to box B.

    Both boxes now have the same number of pens.

    How many pens are in box A now?”

    Could she really not figure this out? Better not ask her to calculate the winnings on an each way Lucky 15 any time soon!

    #1630517
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    Q1) If Mr C Allstar wants to place a £1 each way lucky 15, how much will his total stake be?

    Q2) How much will Bet 365 actually let him have on?

    Real world maths is the way forward.

    #1631738
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    Safe hands Sunak fined for breaking the law for the second time in under a year. Former Chancellor Zahawi facing serious questions about his tax arrangements. All this from the self-styled ‘Party of Law and Order’. Labour’s open goal grows ever wider.

    Of course, the police need to stop wasting their time investigating non-crimes committed by politicians:

    https://nitter.net/BNHWalker/status/1616379766600523776#m

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    I’m torn here, while I appreciate any stick to beat Sunak with, of all the things he’s ever done to annoy me, not wearing his seat belt doesn’t even make the top ten.

    It does, however, illustrate that people of his mentality think it’s one rule for him and another for everyone else.

    Btw, in a YouTube New Statesman feature this week, Andrew Marr passed on a point I’ve long been making.

    He’d been having a chat with Neil Kinnock and Kenneth Clarke and both Kinnock and Clarke made the exact point I’ve been making about Sunak.

    It’s an absolute myth Sunak is a moderate – Covid forced a lot of measures on him.

    He’s a Thatcherite at heart and in many ways every bit as right-wing as Truss was.

    This will ultimately be exposed and be his undoing.

    He will leave the election-winning centre ground vacant for Starmer.

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